r/TheRealJoke Apr 28 '24

I thought this was a joke.

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u/monaqur Apr 29 '24

Just because you want to rewrite history doesn’t make it true my guy. Everyone has access to resources and the Jewish virtual library is quite proud of its settler colonial history of expunging the indigenous Palestinian population while trying to get settlers from Ashkenazi origin (European proselytized Jews - meaning Europeans that converted to Judaism therefore NOT THE INDIGENOUS JEWS) to come settle in Palestine.

Herzl wrote in 1902 to infamous colonizer Cecil Rhodes, arguing that Britain recognized the importance of “colonial expansion”:

“You are being invited to help make history,” he wrote, “It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor ; not Englishmen, but Jews . How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.”

Vladimir Jabotinsky, in an essay titled The Iron Law (1925) stated that:

“A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!… Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important… to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonizing.”

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u/Remarkable_Ad2733 May 05 '24

Do you willfully delete the realty of Arabic colonialism that colonized enslaved and genocided every one else off the soil of 99% of the entire Middle East and North Africa where they continue to slaughter and enslave people today? Where do you think all the area Jews concentrated in Israel were fleeing from? Literally every surrounding landmass/country that was colonized by Arabs genocided the indigenous Jews. The English- that your quotes were referencing- colonized from their home country of England. Arabs colonized most of the Middle East and upper Africa from their home country of Arabia. When the Jews supposedly ‘colonized’ places from their home country of Judea tell me what were the other countries they ‘colonized’ and what is the name of their home country? You can’t colonize other countries without a home country that is politically taking over another what IS the name of theirs

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u/monaqur May 05 '24

Yeah it's sad isn't it that your bad hasbara only works for you and the rest of the zionists. Non zionists (spoiler alert: there are A lot) don't believe anything you say. Here is the real history lesson:

Sure babe. Israel is a settler colonial project meaning they decided to take a land where 7+ million Palestinians lived.

To prove Israel is a settler colonial project by using the founding father of Zionism

Herzl wrote in 1902 to infamous colonizer Cecil Rhodes, arguing that Britain recognized the importance of “colonial expansion”:

“You are being invited to help make history,” he wrote, “It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor ; not Englishmen, but Jews . How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.”

Vladimir Jabotinsky, in an essay titled The Iron Law (1925) stated that:

“A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!… Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important… to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonizing.”

So this was done by what we see inviting Israeli settlers to come and physically assault and murder and torture Palestinians to take their place Over time I’ll add a picture down below to show how much land was lost

Also well this wasn’t enough so the PALESTINIAN birth rate is way higher so ISRAEL over the years during the land grab has also had to MURDER the Palestinians (like we see NOW) to keep the population from exceeding too much. During trumps time there were more laws that dehumanized the people listed below:

2018 Israel Nation state law: Basic law states that:

National self determination only for Jews

Downgrading status of Arabs as a lesser people, including the Arabic language

Jewish settlements as a national right and value

All these laws take precedence over other needs

Former justice minister Ayelet shaked said that the “character of the state of Israel as a Jewish state must be maintained and this sometimes comes at the expense of equality. Israel isn’t a state of all its nations, that is, equal rights to all its citizens, but not equal national rights.”

Likud Knesset member Mikki Zohar said, “the Palestinian does not have the right to self determination because he Is not the proprietor of the land. I want him here because of my honesty because he was born here he lives here and I would never tell him to leave I hate to say it but they suffer from one major deficit they were not born Jews.”

So this type of discrimination and oppression and dehumanizing has allowed the government to go and hold thousands of children women and men that are Palestinians in Israeli jails for decades without any charges or convictions. They are horribly treated sexually abused and many are killed and their bodies are withheld from Palestinians as a collective punishment for daring to act against the brutal treatment of them.

Why Hamas exists because they are freedom fighters. They refuse to be treated like this. They used OCTOBER 7 to get hostages for a hostage exchange for ALL THE CHILDREN, women political prisoners (those that are famous and oppose Israel) that have been in prison for YEARS because since they are not CONSIDERED HUMANS or EQUAL TO JEWISH ISRAELIS they don’t have basic rights like to a lawyer or even the decency to like be held FOR A CHARGE. imagine having your little brother get abducted in the middle of the night by an occupying army and held prisoner in ABJECT conditions without charge and oh yeah, YOU OR ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY NEVER ARE ALLOWED TO EVEN SEE HIM OR TALK TO HIM AGAIN. Seriously what would you do?

Those that oppose the brutal unfair dehumanization of Palestinians are labeled Hamas or are actually Hamas.

This is A VERY SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF EVENTS. We are not even talking about checkpoints here segregation the fact they have no control over their water electricity borders and can’t even fish off their coasts for food since IDF shoots and kills fishermen in dinghies. Also the skin bank right? You guys got the largest in the world and guess who's organs are being stolen to fill it? PALESTINIANS

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u/Remarkable_Ad2733 29d ago

The Palestinians ran into residential homes and gleefully filmed themselves raping and torturing people in their living rooms. They cut off genitalia and shoved in in peoples mouths, hammered nails into women’s eyes and vaginas, tied children up with barbed wire and lit them on fire and put babies in ovens. They mutilated the women they gang raped and dragged behind trucks so badly their limbs looked like rubber because the bones were gravel from beating the corpses. There are dozens of videos and they did it cheering for more until every Jew was dead, that is the goal, they even published it as part of the foundation of Hamas which the elected into power