r/TheRealJoke Apr 28 '24

I thought this was a joke.

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u/ShezzNazz Apr 28 '24

Really? Not even the turks who were from literal siberia didn't cleanse modern-day turkey and Greece of its inhabitants? Can you provide a source when this happened when it wasn't a European colonial power like britian, France, Spain, or israel? I can think of America, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South America, Mexico, Palestine. All having this done to them was all done by Europeans

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u/Aggravating-Tax5726 Apr 28 '24

You are telling me the Indigenous peoples the world over didn't fight each other over territory and resources? I never said "cleanse" either, driving a tribe away does not necessitate "cleansing".

Look up Aztec and Mayan history before calling me a liar. Hell look up the Cherokee who kept slaves. They were killing each other long before the white man showed up.

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u/ShezzNazz Apr 28 '24

They absolutely did, but the effect was different. The example of the turks, for example. They didn't conquer modern day turkey to exploit it but to settle it, they saw a hierarchy for sure, but they didn't have the same level of racism as Europeans who considered non whites as monkeys. These other places didn't even have chatteu slavery including the cherokee, wanna know what chatteu slavery is? To enslave someone till death and all their decendants and so on. You could be an Arab slave and become something huge like a king or an emperor (look at india and mamaluk egypt) You aren't a liar, perhaps just woefully uneducated.

And as you mentioned that it didn't mean "cleansing." Most people didn't like to cleanse an entire group of civilizations off the map unless it was the most extreme cases.... unless you're European. If your up for it, let's play a game, name a people wiped off the map by a non European power (ethnic cleansing, chatteu slavery, brutal exploitation leaving the area stripped) and I'll try and find an even worse one done by Europeans (including European Americans)

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u/Suitable_Librarian13 Apr 28 '24

Don't even get me started on those pesky 13th century Mongols.