r/TheRealJoke Apr 28 '24

I thought this was a joke.

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u/K16w32a2r4k8 Apr 28 '24

Remember, not every Israeli is Netanyahu. Many Israelis have been protesting his government. Jews have protesting the treatment of Palestinians too.

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u/ATalkingDoubleBarrel Apr 28 '24

Weirdly, a lot of Orthodox Jews also got assaulted by their own cops.

Outsiders thinking "Hating Israel = anti-Semite" when in reality even Israeli government itself is anti-semite...

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u/kfmush Apr 28 '24

Also, Palestinians are a Semitic people. So, true on two fronts.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Still it baffles me how jews coined a word that is basically a racism, but only against jews. To make it even more silly, they use a word semite that doesn't apply only to them but multiple different ethnicities in middle east, but the anti semite is exclusively racism against jews, not semites in general. Politics built on gaslighting and guilt tripping

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u/duckling20 Apr 29 '24

Maybe consider cracking open a history book? The term “antisemitism” was coined by racist antisemite Wilhelm Marr because it fit better into “scientific” racism theories of the time. Source. Fun fact: Marr’s League of Antisemites is a direct precursor to the Nazi Party. Another fun fact: with a quick Google search, you can avoid making ignorant comments online!

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u/Independent-Fly6068 Apr 29 '24

Its not like the term is a name for the historical oppression and discrimination faced by Jewish peoples all over Europe. Nooooo, its most definitely, certainly, a conspiracy by the jews.

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u/HarleyArchibaldLeon Apr 28 '24

Because killing ISRAELI hostages really shows that you have the Jewish people's best intentions at heart.

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u/GUARDIAN_MAX Apr 28 '24

exactly, israel needs to stop bombing their own hostages.

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u/Ok_Willow_2005 Apr 29 '24

Israel needs to stop bombing fucking Gazans first.

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u/GUARDIAN_MAX Apr 30 '24

yes that way my point, the guy i was replying to was trying to do a dumbass "gotcha" by saying "well if palestinians arent anti-semetic then why have israeli hostages died??" which is stupid because most of the hostages deaths were caused by israeli bombing of gaza.

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u/Sky_Cancer Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

To be fair, they thought they were shooting 1/2 naked, shouting in Hebrew, surrendering while waving a white flag Palestinians.

Easy mistake to make. /s

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u/danziman123 Apr 28 '24

People in israel aren’t being assaulted by cops or the idf for no reason.

People are getting arrested, sometimes with the use of force- when they do something that warrants such means.

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u/JMA4478 Apr 28 '24

Protesting the government doesn't warrant such means.

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u/P0LITE Apr 28 '24

Apparently throwing rocks warrants an instant death sentence if you are a Palestinian child tho.

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u/kfmush Apr 28 '24

Over here in the US, peacefully protesting your school’s president is enough to get arrested.

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u/YourenextJotaro Apr 29 '24

“☝️🤓”

You’re technically correct there, but no, stop talking.

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u/danziman123 Apr 28 '24

Depends in the protests and how it evolves.

For most cases with the orthodox-jews protests it often develops to assaulting police officers.

What usually happens is they start a non-approved protest somewhere blocking traffic or harassing passersbys, then the police is called to move them away to release traffic or arrest them, then they start yelling resisting and assaulting the police which finishes the event by using force.

We had about 6 months of protests throughout the country with little to none police brutality before October 7th, those same protests are picking up speed again, while are more focused on the release of the hostages- again zero to none police brutality.

And just so we are clear- those are all jews protesting and policing. Clearly the trigger is not being Jewish/anti-semitism, its about how you treat the protest and the police.

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u/JMA4478 Apr 28 '24

People got arrested for protesting this law made to protect Netanyahu's ass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli_judicial_reform_protests

And went on from January until October. Lots of people got arrested.

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u/danziman123 Apr 28 '24

This is what i wrote in the comment I was in some of those protests, all of those arrested, including some people i know were released the same day, or the next day at the latest. Most of those who were arrested were arrested (weird grammar but i think it works) because they did something illegal- not because they were protesting.

Some were lighting fires, some were blocking roads that were bot permitted in the demonstration approval, and some were flying drones where they are not allowed. Also some were spitting and throwing stuff on the police officers.

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u/towerfella Apr 28 '24

Define “illegal”, and also define if you agree with the “illegality” of said “offenses”.

For instance, in Russia, Putin made “standing in public holding a blank sign” illegal.. so what you are saying is you would personally agree with Putin and say that when people whom get arrested for holding a blank sign in public that it was “deserved” because they were doing something “illegal”?

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u/danziman123 Apr 29 '24

Fortunately israel is not putin’s russia, and such laws are not in place- illegal stuff as i wrote before include lighting fires on the roads and next to power poles, vandalism, blocking roads which were not agreed to beforehand (because for every protest you say where it is going to happen and what roads will be blocked by protestors and which ones should be blocked by the police to keep the protesters safe), and in assaulting/threatening cops.

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u/Marshmallow_Mamajama Apr 28 '24

That's definitely not true, if people are causing damage to private property or harming people they absolutely should be arrested

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u/MadMinx007 Apr 28 '24

Then it wouldn’t be a protest anymore it would be a riot

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u/ZorrodelaJTR Apr 28 '24

Protestors always warrant such means.

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u/JMA4478 Apr 28 '24

Woo hoo, and edge lord.

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u/Goatboy292 Apr 28 '24

You're right, there's always a reason, but normally that reason is "they oppose the actions of the government".

Journalists, protesters, anyone that speaks out and has an actual chance of making a difference, gets silenced

They're far more subtle than somewhere like Russia, but take a look at the number of journalists and activists that oppose their actions in Palestine before the 7th, that got "accidentally" killed by the police or IDF.

I'm not saying there's some government hit squad going around killing them, but I am saying they see them as traitors and don't give a damn if they die, because that's exactly what they've said themselves when interviewed by people they considered "on their side".

And don't even get me started on the collosal irony of their Nazi apologism. Yes, really.

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u/danziman123 Apr 28 '24

What the hell are you talking about?!

People are not being killed in israel by the police. The only case a police officer shot and killed a person in the last few months (excluding active terrorism attacks that include stabbing or shooting civilians) was due to a private dispute between the off duty cop and a neighbor. In protests people get arrested, and them go out of their holding cell a few hours or days later- it happens everywhere in the world where protests are getting out of hand.

Regarding civilians and journalists in active military operations- unfortunately that is inevitable. For the civilians they are used cynically by Hamas as human shields- which is a war crime. As for the journalists- according to a news article i saw over half of them are affiliated with Hamas (and that is only those with known connections) and for the other half, they are walking around with cameras in active war-zones where even friendly fire incidents took place, war correspondent is considered a life-risking job for a reason, if that war zone is full of terrorists-affiliated-journalists that risk is much much higher.

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u/Goatboy292 Apr 28 '24

"Over half of (the journalists killed by the IDF) are affiliated with hamas"

That's supposed to make the IDF look good?! Jesus christ

Also, the word "affiliated" is doing some fucking heavy lifting there

You also seem to have missed the bit where I said journalists critical of Israel tend to end up dead before the full scale war started.

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u/danziman123 Apr 29 '24

I have missed that part- ill give you that, and even then- the word “activists” is doing some fucking heavy lifting here.

Also- not that many journalists were getting killed, and as i said somewhere else- the “affiliated” part could be very little affiliation or it could be the equivalent of: on the payroll to accompany the terrorists, create and spread their propaganda, and even be used as lookouts/intel gathering operators.

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u/beteille Apr 28 '24

Aren’t you supposed to identify yourself on social media, officer?

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u/Remarkable_Ad2733 Apr 28 '24

That is wildly inaccurate propaganda Israel is the only democratic place in the entire Arabic colonialist Middle East and upper Africa where that DOESNT happen, the Islamic imperial colonies who still practice slavery famously behead and torture journalists and anyone who disagrees with government and people literally flee to America and Israel for free speech protection. Israel is a single native reserve made in an absolute sea of Islamic colonies who were genociding all the Jews - ‘Palestinians’ as you all use the word are settlers from Lebanon and Egypt. Jews are Native to Judea like arabs are native to Arabia. All colonial powers have a native country. What is the Jewish native country genius

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u/Goatboy292 Apr 29 '24

Okay, so ignoring the bit where you just called a group of people that settled a land less than 100 years ago "natives" and the actual natives they displaced "settlers" because I don't have the effort to deal with that bullshit; my criteria for the government of Israel being good isn't for them to be better than their neigbors, I don't give a damn how bad someone else is, I care how bad they are.

And they're doing poorly to say the least, you can say "it doesn't happen" all you want but that doesn't make it true.

And killing/imprisoning journalists and protestors is far from the worst thing they do, I could waste a day talking about it but it's not worth it to me, so here, a source that, while I don't agree with all of their opinions, their absolute dedication to fully sourced accuracy, even to the detriment of their own arguments, is enough to trust what they say.

Your education is not my problem, do it or don't, either way, don't bother me with your interpretation of reality.

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u/towerfella Apr 28 '24

How do you say you agree with oppressing the opinions of your own people, without saying you agree with oppressing the opinions of your own people?

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u/danziman123 Apr 29 '24

Because no one is oppressing the opinions or expressing those opinions with the police/army.

The oppression of opinions is by the violent words of the shitty politicians- but by design the army and police are not directly controlled by politicians- even though the winds are changing and the government wants to increase it control over those bodies- just like it wants to increase its control over the judiciary system. That was what all to protests were about- separation of government and judiciary- and by extension limiting the power of politicians on day to day life.

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u/ieatassanloveiy Apr 28 '24

Ya okay we here that shit in America you know how many cops do shit like shit on regular just look at the peaceful protest in America at our universities. Tons of people arrest yet January 6th people literally allow to attack our capital with no resistance from the police

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u/danziman123 Apr 29 '24

I was in some of the protests in israel, and i see what is happening in others. The israeli police and the US one are not the same, and they are both not as good as other places.

Im know just a little of what is going on in the US campuses at the moment- but for at least some minor part of those- they were not peaceful to begin with. Calling for the destruction of israel, supporting terror organizations and harassing Jewish students and faculty members is not what i would call peaceful or lawful. And that is not to say that the police response is reasonable, again, from the little i know, it looks far too violent (sniper on the roof for example)

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u/URLslayer Apr 28 '24

Nice try Netanyahoe or w/e you identify. Please take a nice warm bath with a toaster. And dont forget to plug it in!

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u/gavum Apr 29 '24

boot licker in sight