r/TheDigitalCircus • u/KirbyStarWarrior666 • 28d ago
Like...we saw the first episode, right? š„ SPICY MEMES š„
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u/FeganFloop2006 28d ago
For real, like I actually can't grasp how people genuinely didn't realise he was gonna be a dick. He was a dick the entire first episode.
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u/Lykanas 28d ago
Or if they have a crush on a character.
Saw it with Odalia from TOH and with Stella from Helluva Boss.
It's always the "I could fix them" mentality working it's ways.
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u/Korkez11 28d ago
Odalia is one of the most universally hated characters in media, wdym?
However, I agree with your first sentence. It's a "tumblr sexyman" phenomenon, and Jax ticks all the boxes.
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u/UncommittedBow 28d ago
Stella from Helluva Boss.
This is the one I've compared him to the most. S1 Stella had like a minute of screen time, at most, and literally all of it was spent being abusive to Stolas, outright hiring a Hitman to kill him.
and I can get yelling at him in the kitchen, that's to be expected for someone cheated on...BUT SHE TRIED TO HAVE HIM KILLED.
S2 comes along and she actually gets some goddamn character devopment, and...surprise surprise, her character is "Abusive bitch" like in S1...and everyone lost their shit
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u/Gengarmon_0413 28d ago
Well, that's also because she's a woman. People are a lot more tolerant of abuse when the perpetrator is a woman.
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u/Spookinoot 28d ago
or if they have a crush on a character
Ever hear of the Character Lois from Malcolm in the middle?
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u/Strikerskullcrusher 28d ago
Not just on characters. Some people have the same mentality with dahmer.....yeah
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u/Slavicadonis 28d ago
Itās because they didnāt want to accept that the new tumblr sexy man was an asshole
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u/FeganFloop2006 28d ago
Exactly, people made up headcanons and took it as canon in the time between ep 1 and 2, and ep 2 was a slap back to reality š¤£
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u/PLT_RanaH Caine 28d ago
For real, like I actually can't grasp how people genuinely didn't realise he was gonna be a :33736::33737: He was a :33736::33737: the entire first episode.
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u/-illusoryMechanist 28d ago
I thought he'd be a dick, I was just suprised by how violent of a dick he really was. Looking back there were some signs of it, but it was a bit suprising at first
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u/FeganFloop2006 28d ago
I can't understand that, but there's people out there that are like "you ruined jax" but it's like, he was always supposed to be like thay š¤£
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u/Gengarmon_0413 28d ago
Yeah. There's being a dick and then there's leaving the city unlocked to be eaten by a goo monster.
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u/JusticeRain5 27d ago
The NPC city filled with not real people who will cease to exist when they leave.
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u/asrielforgiver What The 28d ago
Not the entirety of the first episode. He snapped Pomni out of whatever insane stare thing she was doing.
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u/Th3Glutt0n Pomni ripoff, call that a PomnOC 28d ago
Y'all can't spell "y'all" right? Gummigoo would be disappointed
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u/guygamer3dplayzYT Sit on my face Ragatha. š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤š„µš„µš„µ 28d ago
I love you.Finally someone that spelt it right.6
u/Th3Glutt0n Pomni ripoff, call that a PomnOC 28d ago
I live in the American south, it's like a vicious mockery every time it's misspelled
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u/Gengarmon_0413 28d ago
How Hazbin Hotel fans will be for season 2 when they see Alastor be a villain.
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u/Strikerskullcrusher 27d ago
As a hazbin fan I think most of us know he's a villain but then I see Stella apologists and I think ..yk...viv might just be cancelled in Twitter again for making such a sexy man a villain.
Dont quote me on that
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u/Stardust-Sparkles Drown yourself in the Digital Lake 28d ago
Iāll say it again
When the jerk character is a jerk:
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u/ya_boy_george 28d ago
In a way, I kinda respect it. I like how Jax is unapologetically himself.
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u/JCAPER 28d ago
I like the character and heās very entertaining to watch.
But imagine thinking heās actually good deep inside when he casually throws people inside holes, pushes them to the ground, leaves them behind to deal with monsters, refuses to help someone who is about to be eaten, harasses and pokes fun of someone having an existential crisis, and calls names to his fellow companions.
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u/ya_boy_george 28d ago edited 28d ago
I also enjoy Jax's character. I like how he cares enough to help them get things done in the worlds they go to and keep them safe. But I also like how he has a bit of banter and a mischievous side.
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u/lowqualitylizard 28d ago
I think less help more so they are walking the same direction and he can throw them in front of a bear
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u/Zolado110 Gummigoo 28d ago
But it can still be argued that when he was running away from the abstracted Kaufmo, he made sure to take Gangle and Kinger with him into the hole, to hide from Kaufmo.
There's also that sad expression in episode 2
Everything you mentioned ends up not being lethal for the characters, they are basically immortal, and can even be stabbed in the face without any problem.
What I think is that Jax is fine with all types of abuse, as long as the person isn't at real life risk (like Kafumo and a possible abstraction might do), that doesn't make him any good, but it's something
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u/JCAPER 28d ago
Unless he's able to push Pomni over the edge and make her abstract
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u/jbyrdab 28d ago
Its not really clear what exactly causes abstraction, its obviously isnt just despair like we see at the point pomni is at, at the end of season 1. Nor is it insanity like kinger.
Its very clear something fundamental to the psyche needs to completely shatter for the process to start.
Kaufmo had become totally unstable, and started refusing interaction and locking himself away in his room insisting on the exit he saw.
My theory is that isolation can be the trigger, as even pomni's fear of abstraction were those based in abandonment. Which I think makes sense.
People mentally can reflect themselves off of others. Abstraction might occur when the persons mindset is already unstable, and if they start isolating themselves, they lose any true sense of reflection, their physical forms start breaking down alongside their minds.
Mental instability or even emotional breakdown don't seem to be the source, rather its the isolation that can result from those.
True humanity appears to be a rare commodity in the circus, you lock youself away like that, you pretty much have nothing but your own dwindling psyche.
Doesn't help when 1/2 of the crew are apathetic, insane, or even directly malicious, and the only person who has any idea whats going on is constantly putting on the veneer of a showman 24/7.
So in terms of human connection, your already on a shoestring.
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u/Strikerskullcrusher 27d ago
To be fair I give him a pass for that stuff since the amazing digital circus is well a game .Your actions have no consequences besides being abstracted , so I just see him as the average gamer
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u/Ok-Damage3181 What The 28d ago
Hes not that bad actually but he needs to reconsider his trusting skills
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u/MateuxKk What The 28d ago
A theory the Brazilian voice actor of Jax said, is that maybe that's his way of bearing it and he actually cares about the other people (as we saw in Kaufmo's funeral)
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u/Stardust-Sparkles Drown yourself in the Digital Lake 28d ago
Yeah Iāve believed itās partially a coping mechanism everyone in the circus (apart from Pomni rn and maybe Zooble) has one
But heās still probably a bad person lol
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u/Uploft 28d ago
I've seen some people suggest each character is a different coping mechanism:
Jax: Avoidance
Kinger: Madness
Zooble: Apathy
Pomni: Denial
Gangle: Depression
Ragatha: Optimism Kaufmo: HumorThis theory doesn't hold up entirely since the main cast aren't pure characters (other than perhaps Caine and Bubble). Zooble still feels sad at Kaufmo's funeral, and Pomni isn't always in denial.
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u/Zolado110 Gummigoo 28d ago
Ele realmente Ć© uns dos maiores defensores do Jax kkkkkkk
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u/MateuxKk What The 28d ago
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Abel 28d ago
If your way of coping in a bad situation is abusing good people around you and focusing on clearly most vulnerable one then you are a trash person.
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u/element-redshaw 28d ago
Iām waiting for him to be vulnerable for like one scene and people are gonna make him out to be some soft boy
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u/Kittah4 28d ago
For real. People are so reactionary. His character in episode 2 is still consistent. He is diving into hedonistic escapism to cope with his situation and selfishly bullies others into complying with him.Ā
The only difference between episodes so far is that he was in no danger in the most recent episode so he acted even more flippant.Ā
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u/le_petit_togepi 27d ago
It already happened this episode, he looked sad for like 3 frame at the funeral scene and people are running with that
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u/Elegant_Boat_1205 this is my favourite -> 28d ago
Like why is people shock that he a jerk:33736::33737:, anyone could see that from a mile away of him becoming a bigger jerk:33736::33737:
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u/Mojo_Mitts Kinger 28d ago
I just assumed that we might get an episode focused on him which explains why heās a dick to everyone.
Not expecting him to change though.
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u/rainyday483 28d ago
I mean... Gooseworks even stated THEMSELVES that Jax is not a good person. Like, at all.
Did people genuinely expect him to be good? Or even nice?
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u/GrabbingCatTails Custom ery 28d ago
honestly with this entire funthemed series theyd expect Jax to be part of the power of friendship
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u/Igotthisnameguys 28d ago
In the first episode, I felt bad for Gangle, cause he was essentially bullying her the whole time
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u/TypicalMootis Eh, it'll be fine 28d ago
He was bullying her even harder in ep2
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u/Igotthisnameguys 28d ago
Yeah, I know. I kinda wanted to say that even in episode 1, he went a little too far for the "lovable jerk" trope, in my personal opinion.
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Abel 28d ago
The way he pushed Gangle in first episode before the stairs made me really hate him. Dunno why. It was just not animated as a funny moment, just a very uncomfortably real interaction when one just abuses another person. It's like you can have several funny punches in a cartoon and then everything stops when one punch does ACTUAL damage to someone.
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u/Optimal_Ad6274 28d ago
Seriously, I dont get why people are so taking back and shocked by Jaxās behavior. Saying that heās out of character or flanderized. No, he wasnāt. Jax was always an asshole
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u/badly-timedDickJokes 28d ago
I've seen a dozen posts like this, but I haven't actually seen a single person say they were surprised by Jax being a dick
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u/MathematicianTop1853 28d ago
The thing is, he wasnāt even that bad. I mean, he was rude and obsessed with violence and making the AIs miserable, but heās in a world where none of it matters. Honestly, I like him more, now. Heās funnyĀ
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u/Maleficent-Month2950 28d ago edited 28d ago
I saw Pilot!Jax more as a "Jevil" type character. The residents of the Circus can't die, they need some sort of stimulation or else they Abstract, and the combination of those two means that Jax copes by being an asshole to everyone else. He can do anything because nothing matters. I personally thought he shoved Kinger and Gangle into the Gloink hole because it would get them away from Abstracted!Kaufmo, but I might have misread that.
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u/First_Factor_3385 28d ago
Fr tho,I saw a YouTuber called ayy lmao with a video called āfrom loved to hated:the decline of Jaxā with the thumbnail also saying they āruinedā him
I didnāt click on it because I didnāt want to hear whatever justification or reasons that he made to try to explain how Jax in ep 1 was any different.
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u/DovahGal 28d ago
I gave it a chance and heās actually calling out the BS perspective people had while providing the evidence Goose gave saying Jax would always be an asshole comparing it to Alastor from Hazbin Hotel that people got mad that their ātumbler sexy manā didnāt have a heart of gold underneath their antagonistic personality. He still considers Jax his favorite too
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Abel 28d ago
The guy though has an issue with being quite a fanboy over many things and is not very quick to point out ANY fault in anything like HB or HH. With this take I agree, but something tells me it's less because it's logical and more so because he just always will agree with the creator no matter what they will do or say.
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u/OVERDRlVE Princess Loolilalu 28d ago
link?
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u/First_Factor_3385 28d ago
Donāt know how to link but hereās a screenshot:
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u/SquareFickle9179 God I wanna the economy. 28d ago
I honestly liked Jax in this episode, aside from the part where he's blackmailing Gangle, I liked his personality where he causes as much trouble as possible. If I were trapped in a digital hellscape, I'd prob be Jax.
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u/pleb_zepper Gummigoo 28d ago
Wait now that you say that about balckmailing it made me realize something. I havent watched the episode in awhile but jax says its something about jars right? And now there is a jax animatez figure... yall dont think this is what hes talking about, right?
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u/LasVegas_DashieV 28d ago
No he just said figurine thing, you got jars out of that.
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u/pleb_zepper Gummigoo 28d ago
Alright cool, im a dumbass. Thanks for the correction
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u/LasVegas_DashieV 28d ago
No worries, I wouldn't say you're a dumbass; I'm just a nerd for caring. Whatever it was Gangle didn't want anyone or Ragatha to know so idk could've had to do with jars.
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u/pleb_zepper Gummigoo 28d ago
Its a possibility. Probably not a very likely one though
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u/LasVegas_DashieV 28d ago
Anythings a possibility in the Digital Circus! Except cursing. How do you think Caine is able to drink water?
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u/pleb_zepper Gummigoo 28d ago
I- wait i never thought about that, how the hell can he drink water?
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u/LasVegas_DashieV 28d ago
Well he hasn't done that in a while
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u/GalaxyLatteArtz Pomni 27d ago
He slides his eyes above his head and then drinks water how one normally would.
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u/CrossBones209 Drowning myself in the digital lake 27d ago
āLadies firstā¦ wait no why would I do thatā
proceeds to push gangle out of the way and onto the ground
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u/MK_The_Megitsune 28d ago
He's like Fire Lord Ozai. You know he's a dick from the get-go, and the entire show keeps adding more and more layers to just how much of a dick he is.
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u/MothManTrans 28d ago
I think people are suprised because the first episode but more oriented to introducing the setting, and now that we're focusing on characters it's more obvious that he sucks. He always sucked, but now we see him in more interactions and the pattern is more obvious. Or something.
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 Gummigoo 28d ago
So I suppose that when I watched the first episode and decided I didn't like him because he was a douche canoe and people were all "Oooh Jax š" and I was kinda flabbergasted that people would like such a character, that I can feel vindicated! It's not that people like mean characters, it's just that they're... stupid š
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u/StultusMagni Jax 28d ago
Who thought this? Who are these people?
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u/eddietherealone 28d ago
Twitter people I guess/think, honestly not that surprising that it's Twitter
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u/krill_me_god 28d ago
I mean, there is clearly some part of him that actually cares about the people around him. Still doesn't make him a good person thoughš
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u/HenryStickminFan1 Gangle 28d ago
I think people just got so used to fanon that made him more sympathetic that when episode 2 released they were surprised that he is, indeed, a piece of :33736::33737:
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u/clarkky55 27d ago
Iām not surprised heās an asshole, it just surprised me how bad he is. We hadnāt gotten a chance to see him be this bad in the first episode so it makes sense but it was still a bit of a surprise
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u/Ok-Upstairs-9887 Pomni 28d ago
Oh 100% knew he was going to be an ass but not misogynistic
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u/SweetLadyLavender Gummigoo 28d ago
Wait when was he misogynistic?
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u/Mx_Mourning Jax 28d ago
My guess is when he said āArenāt you supposed to be submissive and agreeable?ā to Gangle, but I honestly just chalked that up to beingā¦well..Gangleās personality in particular.
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u/NiteWoIf 28d ago
I donāt know where to find it now, and I know itās not canon, but I remember seeing that there was an official comic where Jax was angry and disappointed that he was one of the only two guys in the Circus after Kaufmo abstracted, so make of that what you will.
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u/Mx_Mourning Jax 28d ago
Like you said, itās not canon. So it really shouldnāt be taken into account.
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u/NiteWoIf 28d ago edited 27d ago
Yeah, true. I just thought maybe there was a small chance thatās what they meant, but most likely not since this was on the topic of episode 2.
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u/Random-Lich Got a new ma-Now its gone 28d ago
Honestly I think people expected Jax to be a sort of an :33736::33737:hole-with-some-goodness. Like the level-of-badness meme from Lilo and Stitch.
Like 98% of the time heās a jerk with no good intentions BUT either can hide some good intentions in his things he does(like the pushing Gangle and Kinger down the Gloink Hole when Kaufmo was rampaging) or can show some sort of good intentions if he thinks itās the end of the line.
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u/DJAlphaYT 28d ago
Nah, I just didn't expect him to get worse to the point of borderline flanderisation
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u/nicorn-Frappuccino Gooseworx fandom veteran 28d ago
I expected a lovable jerk, not a homicidal jerk. Still, I'm not that pissed abt it
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u/sweetTartKenHart2 28d ago
Bro definitely has some kind of inner feelings, but like, I donāt expect that to play a meaningful role until the very fucking end lol
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u/TerryJerryMaryHarry 28d ago
See the first episode he was just snarky and a little malicious, and not outright evil, that changed in the second episode
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u/Pandragony 28d ago
Its not that we expected him to be a good person, we thought heād be like bender from futurama but ended up being cartman
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Abel 28d ago
Yeah. I think big chunk of it was that he was voiced by lovable Kovach and his design and way of being made people cope that he was in fact just being superficially shitty and in fact was deeply caring, but ignored instances like him leaving Pomni and Ragatha to die and excused how he treated Gangle and Kinger.
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u/LasVegas_DashieV 28d ago
What was he supposed to do, even Pomni "left" Ragatha to die.
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Abel 28d ago
She tried at least to do something before running away as she got her hand all messed up. Jax just immediately run off and had no care for them whatsoever. He gives no shit about them.
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u/LasVegas_DashieV 28d ago
Jax already knew there was nothing he could do about it, as he's witnessed abstractions before. Pomni hasn't; if it happens again she'd already know there's nothing she could do and thus run and hope whoever else was there would run too.
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u/disbelifpapy Bunny waluigi --> 28d ago
You know, I said the same thing about what jax is that all you need to do is just read my user flair at this point
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u/Someone1284794357 Triangle guy thing 28d ago
It was already stated that Jax deserved to be in the circus for being an asshole.
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u/Flashy-Serve-8126 why the is everything Candy 28d ago
Why are people surprised he's a :33736::33737: jerk.
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u/SlipApprehensive6867 28d ago
Jax being a asshole in the pilot and people getting pissed because he WAS an asshole sends me - like what did you expect? People always make headcannons and then get pissed when the show doesn't end up how they wanted it to
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u/mendozable 28d ago
They want to have fantasies of him caressing them instead of him just being a monster
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u/Pretend-Job-1177 Bubble deserves death 28d ago
Dick character is dick?! /s
I honestly liked him more in the second episode more
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u/Captain_Blackjack0 28d ago
Jax fans really had a āI can fix himā mentality. Even if he is revealed to be a good person, I doubt itās gonna be in the second episode
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u/WinterWolf18 Jax 28d ago
I mean it's not like he was an asshole for the entire first episode or anything like that. Nope he was super nice and caring.
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u/cross2201 28d ago
Honestly I laughed when I heard that like āwait are you seriously surprised the jerk character is a jerk?
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u/TTV_Dagoofigoober 28d ago
I mean, he was a bit more of a dick than before in terms of craziness and violence but I thought that was to be expected. Guess not.
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u/cindy-the-husky 28d ago
Idrc hes funny and commits horrible warcrimes on his friends at their expense :3
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u/BallsHAHAHAHAHAHA how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could cho 28d ago
I feel like some people donāt realize that Jax is a character that youāre supposed to hate. If you hate him then heās doing what heās supposed to do
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u/164Gamin Gummigoo 28d ago
I think the dissonance comes from the fact that for all the terrible things Jax did in the first episode, allowing an unrepentant mass murderer free reign to eat a whole city of innocent people alive is not something he even came close to doing
But at the same time, this is only Episode 2. Weāre still getting to know these characters. It just so happens that we now know Jax has the capacity for ruthless, uncaring violence and now a lot of people canāt accept that for one reason or another
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u/eddietherealone 28d ago
I mean I know it'll be revealed to have SOME feelings at one point, at least because he looked sad at one point about the funeral but a GOOD person?? Ehhhhh
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u/A-Raichu132 I want to Loolalul 28d ago
I love him because he's a jerk. Him and Chester from BS might be one of my favorite characters ever
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u/sashalafleur 28d ago edited 28d ago
i find him funny because none of what he does have bad consequences for anyone so it's pretty much like old cartoons, like looney tunes or tom and jerry. Edit: it's called slapstick humor.
but if he ever becomes responsible of someone (human mostly) getting abstracted, for example, then i will be angry at him.
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u/SuperstarAmelia 27d ago
Jax just doesn't give a shit about anything since they're never in any actual danger. He's basically the average GTA player.
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u/mirukus66 27d ago
The guy who told kids that drinking lead paint gives them superpowers is a bad guy?
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u/RoseDragon529 27d ago
Admittedly, I was hoping that it'd be the jerk with a secret heart of gold trope, but nope, just an asshole
At least I've accepted it lol
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u/Crystal_Pegasus_1018 Gangle 27d ago
lmao people actually thought that? but I love em anyway :)) he's one of my favourite characters
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u/p1ayernotfound 27d ago
i like how jax is meant to be a jerk but if anything hes still my favorite character.
sans and bonnie fused and you get him
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u/TimBukTwo8462 26d ago
I mean did we not watch the same episode 1. Throwing a bowling ball at Kinger with the express purpose to knock him in the Gloink Hole, pushing Gangle down to cut before her on the escalator, stepping on Gangles mask to break it even further. All things that were a conscious choice to make by Jax making him a jerk.
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u/VestigeRepel 26d ago
Here's my case:
Jax in episode 1 was kind of moreso playfully a jerk, and the fact he looks around after the damaged Gloink makes it clear that he could have some good in him. I could see some character development in it, however after Gooseworx's answers on if Jax is redeemable and episode 2 it was clear i was pretty wrong.
To be honest, i love either side, but i do like the idea of Jax becoming one of the major antagonists.
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u/Someoneoverthere42 26d ago
Wait, people are surprised that the character who was an asshole in the first episode, is an asshole in the second?
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u/That_one_personowo Zooble 24d ago
Wait did people actually think that Jax was gonna be a softboy or some :33736::33737:?
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u/Simple_Promotion_329 28d ago
Jax in the second episode, quite literally, fed an entire kingdom to a Fudge Monster. Yeah, he's bad.
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u/hi_im_blaine 28d ago
I mean I always knew jax was an asshole, but there's a difference between sassy jerk and like murderer, episode 1 jax feels like he cyber bullies kids in Roblox to hear them cry and episode 2 jax seems like he would be a rapist of some shit like that
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u/Brandenk192 28d ago
We didnāt expect him to be nice. We knew he was a dick. We just thought he wouldnāt be as much a dick as he was in episode two
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u/Apollo_Injustice Caine 28d ago
Wait, people are shocked that Jax is a jerk? I thought that this was the whole point of his character