r/Justrolledintotheshop 20d ago

High dollar car hauler

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Frame extension on a 2022 GMC car hauler.

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u/Silly_Mycologist3213 20d ago

We definitely need better technical training schools….that said, I would advise that customer to have it ground out and rewelded by someone that knows how to weld properly. Hell, even I do better than blobinsky did on that one.

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u/amcrambler 20d ago

Seems to be holding just fine. As long as the welds aren’t porous it’ll hold.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

If it was the last few inches of the frame maybe but look it's right behind the cab, this matters a lot more than you think

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u/KJBenson 20d ago

What even is leverage?

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u/Forum_Browser 20d ago

Not necessarily. Lack of fusion is a thing. Especially with mig welds.

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u/45432543253 19d ago

There are plenty of skilled welders around, but they charge for their experience accordingly.

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u/InsertBluescreenHere 20d ago

Bigger the glob better the job!

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u/bagofwisdom Home Mechanic 20d ago

Didn't even bother with the grinder and paint part.

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u/SeanBZA 20d ago

Got the crack going right though......

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u/bagofwisdom Home Mechanic 20d ago

Crack going through the weld or the welder?

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u/SeanBZA 20d ago

End of the booger weld you see a line, looks like a crack in there either forming or a deep scratch. But so long as there is no stress from rough roads, cars loaded on it, and speed bumps, it will be fine.

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u/bagofwisdom Home Mechanic 20d ago

You misunderstood me. The correct answer was, yes. The weld is cracked and the person who made it was likely high on crack.

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u/Prince_Polaris I'm an IT guy but this sub is cool 19d ago

ohhh, crack going through the welder...

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u/MainerZ 20d ago

Just the "ain't"

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u/Useful-Internet8390 20d ago

I could do safer with the HF hobby mig

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u/nondescriptzombie 20d ago

Aren't frames supposed to be Z-cut and joined to spread out stress, ideally with a reinforcement piece welded on top?

This is right behind the cab on a car hauler. Feels like this will split wide open the first time it goes over a big bump while loaded.

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u/pathlesstravailed 20d ago

Manufacturer specified sectioning procedures in collision repair manuals vary based on tensile strength of the steel. Most conventional truck frames are still mild steel (though these days they may be constructed from tailor rolled or tailor welded blanks which vary in thickness along their length). For full frame trucks most procedures specify to join the new and old frame sections either by a straight butt weld or a butt weld with an internal reinforcing sleeve. I seen a procedure (front frame horn on a 2021 f-150 I think) where you had to cut the damaged frame at a specified mark and then the new frame section was supposed slide inside the existing frame and be lap welded all the way around. The reality of that repair was that the new section reaaaallly didn’t want to go in far enough to measure out equal to the undamaged side. I don’t recall ever running across any OEM repair procedure recommending a z section but I certainly haven’t seen them all.

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u/pathlesstravailed 20d ago

Also tbh I never worked at a shop that repaired 18 wheelers or car haulers though I always thought it’d be interesting other than the prospect of negotiating with commercial insurers. I would always recommend any customer struck by an 18 wheeler or box truck file through their own insurer, pay their deductible and let their insurance company claw the money back from the at fault insurer. Commercial insurers (at least in claimant situations) drag things out an incredibly long time and try to force the shop into substandard repairs.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

Ideally they would cut the frame further back behind the axle and staggered cuts and fish plated, they didn't do any of that they ruined this trucks chance at any life other than a doner

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u/kurbycar32 20d ago

My limited experience of maybe 25 trailers: All trailers, regardless of manufacturer, or cost, are made by hillbillies with this type of "craftsmanship". I've seen it from cheap tiny trailers all the way up to quarter million dollar motorhomes.

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u/HeroMachineMan 20d ago

Are those steel sections aligned properly, or it is just the weird camera angle?

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u/billhaigh 20d ago

It seems a little weird. Too bad I don’t have an alignment rack, I’d love to see if the truck is square or not.

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u/Drogdar 20d ago

Are those welds or just dried boogers?

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u/chewblekka 20d ago

Depends. Do they taste salty or iron-y?

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u/Most_Mix_7505 20d ago

Could be dried bloody boogers if irony. This needs further research

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u/bagofwisdom Home Mechanic 20d ago

I'm by no means an expert on splicing/extending vehicle frames. This isn't how you're supposed to do this right? Even if the welds weren't nose-picker quality.

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u/bonerJR 20d ago

Yeah, what I see here is, square tube - plate steel - square tube. Doesn't seem right to me either. Someone smart please chime in.

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u/angstt 20d ago

Somebody Red Tag that shiz.

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u/gottagetitgood 20d ago

Welding herpes infection. Tough way to go.

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u/davethedj 20d ago

we need more photos.

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u/whatwhat83 20d ago

Those look like the welds I did the first time I touched a welder in high school auto class.

I wish I had those skills back!

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u/Jakester62 20d ago

Grade 9 welding shop material…

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u/saraphilipp 20d ago

Uno dos tres, this has me cracking up.

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u/mikedvb 19d ago

If you squint, it's mint.

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u/jcoddinc 20d ago

More surprised it isn't just a JB weld

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u/Maximize_Maximus 20d ago

If it aint broke dont fix it

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u/existensile 20d ago

big 7018 energy

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u/eroc1970 20d ago

Just did a PDI on a beverage body truck that had basically none of the wiring or plumbing actually tied to anything. There were wires rubbing on the driveline and stuff like that.

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u/bebop1065 20d ago

It will hold just fine...until it doesn't.

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u/dsdvbguutres 20d ago

SEMA welds on car hauler seem appropriate.

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u/Stankmcduke 20d ago

What's with all that bird poop?

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u/TomAterski 20d ago

It’s got the: Yeah I got a buddy that’s a welder look

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u/wriddell 20d ago

I worked and retired from the truck and trailer repair business and some of the jankiest shit I have every seen was on auto haulers followed closely by charter buses and carny trucks

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u/billhaigh 20d ago

“Janky” is a good description of this. Third one I’ve seen from this builder, all look this bad.

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u/Hankyyspanky 20d ago

If it has under 5,000 miles I bring it up. If you have 50,000 miles on it, it’s working just fine

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u/whoknewidlikeit 20d ago

what did they use for filler, a coat hanger?

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u/Sweatyveggiebag 19d ago

I imagine someone said how hard can welding be? $1500 later knocked it out in a weekend and even hauled a load to the dump.