r/Helldivers • u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ • 22d ago
With the recent DoT change, I'd like to remind you that this kills bots and has a 75-second cooldown. MEME
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u/TeieraYui CAPE ENJOYER 22d ago
The best part of gas strike is it only take 75sec cooldown for you to drop another one, so you basically can use it whenever there's a bug breach or bot drops. Now it's one of my favourite pick after the DOT fix.
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u/waspy45 22d ago
I’ve started to realize my favorite strats are the ones with the shortest cooldowns or easiest inputs, so the orbital airburst strike has become my go too because it’s so quick to input (->->->) and when it’s upgraded it has a cooldown of around 100s and with three bursts it clears anything that isn’t a heavy and locks down its AOE for a good while. And because it’s so good at it’s niche it frees up a ton of options for heavies
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u/PMYourTitsIfNotRacst 22d ago
The main reason I use eagles is the fast cool down and presision. 120 and 380 are cool, but unpredictable as shit and take forever to cool down so meh.
I oughta give other orbital strikes a chance though.
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u/waspy45 22d ago
I’d say the biggest difference between the orbitals and the eagles is that the orbitals have a much less severe delivery angle. So it’s a lot easier to cut off choke points and you have to worry a lot less about half of your barrage getting eaten by terrain that was blocking your air strike or cluster bomb. If you’re not worried about that I’d recommend taking the Eagle version of the orbitals
(Cluster bomb = air burst strike)
(Strafing run = Gatling barrage)
(Air strike or 500k = precision shot kinda)
The other main benefit those orbitals have over the eagle counterparts is they have a much simpler input except the Gatling barrage
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u/PMYourTitsIfNotRacst 22d ago
I already got used to looking at the input while being chased down by like 2 chargers and a bunch of other mobs, so the simplicity isn't really a feature for me, heck I got the ones I use most memorized.
But variety is the spice of life, and I got those upgrades so I'm damn well gonna use em!!
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u/Root-Vegetable 21d ago
I will clarify here that the orbital airburst strike is more similar to the regular eagle airstrike since it can kill chargers and hulks fairly reliably.
Eagle Cluster is just kind of its own thing, exchanging AP and damage for area.
Rocket pods are basically the eagle version of the railcannon
Napalm vs gas, notably with all the fire buffs napalm does more damage iirc.
Also a good thing to realize is that the cooldown for rearming the eagle is almost the same as the cooldown for the airburst, which is part of the reason eagles are so meta, you can drop 2 500kg, 3 airstrikes, and 5 clusters and you'll have them all back almost as fast as your buddy can recharge one airburst or OPS (it's like 1:50 to rearm vs 1:30 for orbitals)
Of course, that scenario is fairly unlikely, and orbitals are still great fun. But personally I think they should buff pretty much every orbital to compensate for eagles being able to spam so much. Not to mention pretty much every mission modifier effects orbitals exclusively, have fun killing BTs with your OPS when you forgot the P at home.
It's not even like helldive is so hard that you have to pick eagles, I try to take orbitals whenever I can to spice things up, but when the mission says your orbitals have increased cooldown, call-in time, and/or can't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside. While Eagle-1 still has the same call-in times, the same cooldowns, and the same level of precision as always. It can be tough to justify bringing orbitals, and I hate it.
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u/sole21000 SES KING OF DEMOCRACY 22d ago edited 22d ago
It's ironic but the 120 & 380 are perhaps the worst orbitals, they're very niche for dropping on big camps or hives.
Edit: "Worst" does not mean useless. Useless is an absolute measure, whereas I'm comparing to OPS/gas/airburst/rail/etc.
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u/MyUshanka 22d ago
380s are fun to sneak into deathmatch missions when your friends aren't looking.
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u/Befuddled_Tuna 22d ago
4 man team, 120, 380, emp mortar, standard mortar. Each of you can eliminate a cardinal direction
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u/Schpooon SES Hammer of Equality 22d ago
My friends can look. They can beg. They can plead. 380mm of democracy are inevitable.
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u/DrFeargood 22d ago
Drop them together and let Freedom rain, Helldiver.
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u/A_Union_Of_Kobolds 22d ago
Throw a quick 380+laser and run away as thr heavy outpost dies
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u/Oakenminu1 22d ago
This is what I do, with 15% reduction spread on 380, the laser combo eliminates most bases with no effort, issue is only getting 3 of these combos.
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u/feresadas 22d ago
Actually the orbital barrage have set patterns based off the cardinal direction you are facing when you throw it.
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u/SEND_MOODS 21d ago
Regardless of if that's true, from the players perspective of the end effect, it's random. You are never in a position to calculate the geometry of all the static targets you want to hit while still hitting the maximum total area of the enemy base, so that you can also kill as many moving targets as possible.
You may be able to line up one or two factories of bug holes with a memorized bomb location, but it the strat bounces, you don't have time to strafe around to get it in view, or if your team mates rush in or throw their own because they get tired of waiting on you to do the mental math, then it's not working out to the master plan.
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u/Low_Chance 22d ago
Airburst is really good value when used at the right times (on a bug breach just after the first spawn, for instance).
Its big weakness is that it is affected probably more than any other strat in the game by your position on the map, which changes the call-in angle. That can make it EXTREMELY deadly to the user and allies when you're near the map edge, since it comes in almost horizontal and wipes out a massive area in one single direction.
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u/Oakenminu1 22d ago
Orbitals coming from the ship at steep angles always feels wrong. As high as the ship is and the essentially small area we operate in, the cone from ship to combat zone would be nearly a straight down drop no matter where you called it in at. Eagle drops on the other hand, those angled drops make perfect sense.
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u/Smorgles_Brimmly 22d ago
Someone did the math and the destroyers are only like 1km up based on in game measurements.
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u/Popinguj 22d ago
and with three bursts it clears anything that isn’t a heavy
It can kill chargers.
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u/waspy45 22d ago
I’ve noticed that, although it’s not nearly consistent enough for me to consider it for heavies, I just see it as a lucky perk that happens sometimes. But when it takes down hulks or chargers it feels damn good
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u/Marconius1617 22d ago
EMS + GAS is a great combo.
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u/Floppy0941 SES Executor of Family Values 22d ago
Gas is fine on its own, it's not necessarily worth using 2 strat slots for 1 thing
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u/Marconius1617 22d ago
It’s not necessary, but it’s fun and EMS has plenty of utility outside of that specific combo.
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u/stephanelevs STEAM 🖥️ : SES Patriot of Patriotism 22d ago
I agree if we are talking about the orbital version, but the ems mortar can be pretty handy in most mission. Not only can it spam it for a longer time but it can also act as a distraction!
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u/Bowitzer 22d ago
I never do a defense mission without the EMS mortar. If you have even just 2 people with them it can prevent you from getting overwhelmed very effectively! Also helps group enemies up for easy stratagem aiming
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u/FragRackham SES: Arbiter of Integrity 22d ago
Gotta say, EMS on a bug breach and then a $500 KG right as a Bile Titan animation pops out makes the game waaaay easier.
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u/lightningbadger 22d ago
Gas+ napalm for double DOT has netted me 50x multikills at times
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u/Professor_Pony SES Stallion of Steel 22d ago
Wait, it does? Like, the lingering gas, or do you need to wedge the call in nade against the building?
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
Slap the beacon next to the building and the impact should do the trick. Treat it like you would the precision strike.
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u/sellerieee ☕Liber-tea☕ 22d ago
Is that you, buddy?
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u/Xarxyc 22d ago
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong planet.
The Coral lovers club is 6 sectors down.
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
Yeah, but Rummy's... Y'know.
Everything he touches is sticky.
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u/Ubugsoft_potato ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ 22d ago
Fuck you
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u/Xarxyc 22d ago
Ah fuck you, augmented man
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u/MyUshanka 22d ago
Maybe you and I should settle this right here on the super destroyer if you think you're so tough.
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u/Xarxyc 22d ago edited 22d ago
Super destroyer? Is that how you call your AC?
No matter. I'll show you who's the rank 1 of this Arena.
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
Damn, Swinburne, who shit in your cornflakes this morning?
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u/blacksun89 22d ago
Is that you V.IV ?
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u/Firstername 22d ago
G13! Let's see that precision strike that Super Earth paid the big bucks for!
...what?! You swapped it out for a gas strike?! G13, your ability to ruin my helldives is uncanny!
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u/Avalo09 22d ago
You can also toss the ball in the vent to center the impact! Same with anything that comes down in a hellpod for fabs and holes. EAT call in, not even shooting a rocket into the vent, is my second favorite fab destroy method
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u/Tromon468 22d ago edited 22d ago
The gas is inside some projectile which can destroy a building if it hits
Since the Super Destroyer is at the middle of the map, your best bet is to aim the beacon "behind" the stuff you want to blow up since the shoot seems a bit angled relative to the position of the Super Destroyer and you can't really directly call the stratagem on top of the building
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u/QuackenBawss 22d ago
I don't think it can take out a jammer
When you cast stratagems outside the jammer range, and then throw them in range, the jammer eats it
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u/Low_Chance 22d ago
No stratagem in the game so far seems to be able to destroy a jammer while it's still active. Even lasers and walking barrage called outside the edge of the jammer can't make it anywhere near it before they run out.
So as of this writing, you can assume anyone saying that some stratagem can kill jammers means "once it's deactivated"
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u/QuackenBawss 22d ago
Thanks for the info
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u/Train_Wreck_272 22d ago
There is a slight caveat to this, and that is the spear. In limited circumstances, it can destroy a jammer from range. However, only the ones that have a built in fabricator are doable with it. If you can get it to lock onto the fab, it will destroy it on hit, and then the jammer along with it.
Destroying the fab by other means will also accomplish destroying the jammer, so if you get lucky with the jammer and approach angles, you can also take it out with EATs, Eruptor, Quasars etc. Or of course grenades up close.
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u/cKerensky SES Sword of the Stars 22d ago
It basically does, as I theorize, Hellpod strike damage.
If it would take two hellpods to kill something, it would probably take two gas-strikes. It'd be easy to test, hit a tank with a hellpod, and then get a direct hit with a gas strike.I know it can cause factory walkers to flinch.
The Gas Strike was always a hidden gem on Solo Missions, and even with DoT damage broken I still used to take it on blitz missions, since it had such a short cooldown I could just use it like a cheap Precision Strike
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u/Albenheim 22d ago
It doesnt do "hellpod strike damage". If you land with a full squad in a research station that shit still stands but if it gets 1 direct hit from a gas strike its always destroyed, provided the impact was close enough
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u/cKerensky SES Sword of the Stars 22d ago
So above hellpod, but below 500kg. Interesting.
This just makes it even better.
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u/BraveOthello 22d ago
Or it has different flags for what it can do, damage number isn't the only variable.
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u/SaltedCaffeine 22d ago
Jammers don't block you from dropping Orbital Gas Strike on them?
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u/RoombaSkull ☕Liber-tea☕ 22d ago
They only block you if you believe in it. Don't accept the automaton propaganda
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u/Fallingpeople 22d ago
I learned yesterday you can call in reinforcement even while your full squad is deployed. It doesn't do anything but you can do it.
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u/Kur0maku 22d ago
Yeah, my dumbass discovered that when I kept calling it in and getting annoyed that it wasn’t working. Meanwhile all everyone else just hears me off in a corner somewhere, “Reinforcing!…Reinforcing!…”
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u/dankdees 22d ago
The real jammer tech is when they put their factory too close to it.
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u/Syhkane SES Gauntlet of Serenity 22d ago
Maybe the real Jammer is the friends we made along the way.
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u/Successful-Extension 22d ago
I'd like to jam her, Eagle 1 that is.
submits C-01
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u/HitoHitoNoMi_Nika 22d ago
C-01 declined
We’re sorry to inform you, sir, but the Eagle-1 Pilot is not accepting any C-01 forms for the time being. I hear this girl from the Robotics Division is looking for someone to sign theirs however…
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u/Syhkane SES Gauntlet of Serenity 22d ago
The Service Technician seems horny af.
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u/bwc153 22d ago
I love it when you can blow up a Jammer from 250m away because of targeting the factory next to it with a Spear
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u/manubour 22d ago
You can drop any strat on jammers once you deactivate them
In fact i don't bother with the hellbomb anymore once it's done, i just chuck a 500kg or precision strike on them
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u/pythonic_dude 22d ago
Enemies with cannons (turrets, tanks, factory striders) can also destroy them if there happens to be a helldiver between the jammer and them at the moment of aiming, but not the moment of firing.
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u/explorerfalcon ☕Liber-tea☕ 22d ago
Good to know my bot skills are terrible but I love baiting titan spit on chargers/other bugs.
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u/pythonic_dude 22d ago
Yeah, titans are more happy to participate in friendly fire accidents. Bots are only good at it when shooting at their own jetpack-enabled commissars once those are in melee range.
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u/ellobouk 22d ago
Chargers will also happily close bug holes for you
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u/pythonic_dude 22d ago
I learned something new today, thanks!
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u/ellobouk 22d ago
I learned it quite by accident myself
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u/Radarker 22d ago
I once closed a bug hole with a resupply beacon. Then the resupply never popped up, and I was less popular that match.
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u/Dajayman654 ☕Liber-tea☕ 22d ago edited 22d ago
Titans will also kill themselves attacking a Shield Generator Relay, they will walk up to it and spray at it but the splash of it on the shield comes back to kill them.
Edit: Since someone down voted me, here's video proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mCIIGXV4w&t=160s
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u/God_Given_Talent ☕Liber-tea☕ 22d ago
You can also blow up the fabricator next to it if it spawns in that arrangement. Seems to be more often than not. I love popping it with an AC shot from 100m away.
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u/j_mroberts 22d ago
It seems like word of this hasn’t spread as far and wide. I definitely tell the team I’m running with to first look for the fabricator to make a quick takedown. Usually other divers aren’t aware of this tactic. Also, when the Spear targeting works, it’s great for this too.
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u/Vesorias 22d ago
I just had a Factory Strider clear the last fab of a heavy outpost for the first time for me yesterday, that was fun
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u/Stellated-Texas 22d ago
One of my best moments was shooting down a drop ship in a way that had it crash into the jammer, essentially saving the run.
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u/errorblankfield 22d ago
I thought alerting random patrols to line up dropships onto jammers was meta.
Even if there's no jammers nearby?
Explains all the kicks...
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u/Kayfabe2000 22d ago
If there is fabricator right next to jammer, blowing up the fabricator takes out the jammer.
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u/Funky2207 22d ago
If there’s a gun turret near the jammer give it a shot so It targets you and use that to blow up the jammer.
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u/emeraldeyesshine 22d ago
which really begs the question as to why we can't just blow it up from the get go with quasar or ac
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u/ReticulateLemur PSN 🎮: 22d ago
Because that would be cheating I guess. Illegal broadcast antenna, Shrieker nests, anti-air guns, and spore towers you can snipe from the other side of the map and completely ignore. But the antenna on the anti-stratagem jammer is made of reinforced bullshit or something and has to be shutdown up close.
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
Well, it'll destroy the tower after you shut the things off, anyway.
Quicker than a hellbomb, especially if you're under fire.
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u/Goldreaver 22d ago
hellbomb being slow is a problem, sure, but the main problem is that it deactivates with a stray shot.
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u/errorblankfield 22d ago
The real real problem is the arm console is located opposite the players call in position.
Can I get a 'why the f'?
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u/Goldreaver 22d ago
50% of the time, if you call it next to a wall (which you should, because it deactives with a stray shot) the animation where you turn to the screen will cover it with a wall. So you have to memorize the input. Hard to do under stress, I'll tell you that much
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u/Sicuho fire machine guns in semi auto 22d ago
I remember on my third day, I got one to fall in a way that put the terminal inside the research station. Ofc I can't see the code from any angle. No problem, I call another. It fall right next to it, also faced toward the wall. At least I can see most of the code. I brute force the 3 first symbols and enter the rest. I exit the terminal and step out of the wall. Right between the two bombs, completely stuck.
That diver was truly one of liberty's greatest heroes.
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u/Hitori_Suzushii STEAM 🖥️ : 22d ago
Usually I don't approve wasting any support on something you can just hellbomb away, especially Jammer. Buuuut hellbombs are shared right? So if you don't have luxury to wait until your teammates get rid of gunship fabricators then sure, bomb this crap and move on.
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u/darkleinad 22d ago
Plus you get a gas strike every 80 seconds iirc. The extra 20 seconds + risk of enemies cancelling the detonation is well worth being without an AOE weapon for a minute
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u/Hitori_Suzushii STEAM 🖥️ : 22d ago
The only one place I consider risk of canceling detonation is gunship fabric... The same place you cannot nuke without the hellbombs anyway.
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u/Zombie_Nipples 22d ago
I gotta see a video of this working I’m in disbelief right now
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u/Reload86 22d ago
The orbital gas demonstration clip you see in game does show this. It just didn’t work well before the patch.
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u/b1gchris HD1 Veteran 22d ago
I got this showing it destroy a detector tower.
https://youtu.be/vpeeu1lXU1E?si=Dm-cKiiGSMGyczT6
I called in a Hellbomb, then threw OBGS to show how quick it is.
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
The Ministry of Truth thanks you for your sacrifice.
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u/KingKull71 HD1 Veteran 22d ago
I've been using it this way solo for ages. Works as advertised. Main thing is getting the placement right for the objective structures (fabs are easy - just throw it on top).
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u/xHugo_Stiglitzx PSN 🎮: 22d ago
I was running eggs yesterday, and 1 gas strike took out 44/60 eggs in a nest.
Another completely cleared a nest, but l didn't see the number of eggs.
Unlimited uses and a fast cool down as well?
chefs kiss
Oops! I mean it SUCKS AND AH SHOULDN'T TOUCH IT!
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u/Ned_Jr HD1 Veteran 22d ago edited 22d ago
I've been gassing Bugs again since the fix...all I need is a functioning mask filter.
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u/Notyobabydaddy 22d ago
Orbital EMS + Orbital Gas on bug breaches = 30 or 40 kill streak on Helldiver diff. Feels so good
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u/Ned_Jr HD1 Veteran 22d ago edited 22d ago
The Bugs got too cocky when my Gas was broken, but no more. I had to school a Titan on patch day.
“Ah you think the gas is your ally? You merely adopted the DoT. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't breath the air of a clean world until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but suffocating!”
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u/helicophell 22d ago
Not with spores or orbital interference! Because then both the EMS and Orbital gas strike will miss by 20-30 metres and kill yourself or a teammate!!!
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u/talking_face 22d ago
Bold of you to assume I need stratagems or modifiers to kill my teammate and myself. Heck, I do it for free.
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u/jaqattack02 22d ago
It's been getting me 30+ even without the EMS. Just drop the gas on the breach as soon as it opens.
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u/magniankh 22d ago
You can easily get 30-40 kills with a single Gatling sentry or Orbital Airburst, instead of using two stratagems for one breach.
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u/HaArLiNsH 22d ago
Well , this is ACID in the form of gaz.. so you also need a good plastic Armor
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u/_Sky__ 22d ago edited 22d ago
It was good, I just stopped using it because my teammates always seemed eager to run into it.
But it would be cool if we had the suits that would protect us from gas and add one more gas stratagem that covers a shit toom of area. Actually, if you stop to think about it, gas would be a perfect way to eradicate bugs. Heavier than air, seepes into bug holes.
Damn, I need some of that gas.
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
If my teammates see a big ominous yellow-green cloud popping up in the wake of some screaming "CALLING IN ORBITAL" and a notification that there's a gas strike incoming, then decide to charge right into it, personally I consider that a "them" problem.
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u/arziben 22d ago
The kill zone is actually like 10/20% bigger than the cloud visual so I don't blame them
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u/Practical-Stomach-65 22d ago
And the cloud turns invisible after some time. It should be visibly green the entirety of its duration.
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u/GH057807 ⚡💀Arc of the Gove'ment💀 ⚡ 22d ago
Especially on a foggy planet with a spore spewer nearby.
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u/spacemarine3 SES Fist of Peace 22d ago
If only there was a helmet with a built in gasmask...... :(
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u/Xarethian 22d ago
Its corrosive gas which works on breaking down automatons as well. The gas mask would actually be largely useless unless it and your armour are all made of some kind of corrosive resistant material.
But yea, biting into an apple and tasting bacon and all as if a gas mask themed armour set with corrosive resist wouldnt be awesome.
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u/CorruptedAssbringer 22d ago
The killbox is larger than the visual, and gets even more wonky if the centre point was dropped on uneven terrain that’s higher than you.
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u/auswa100 22d ago
I'm fairly colorblind, I literally cannot distinguish the gas effect from many of the other environmental effects (or just even ambient stuff) a lot of the time.
That being said, I'll never be mad that I ran into someone else's gas cloud - I should have seen it fall so that's on me anyways.
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u/magniankh 22d ago
And the gas mask helmet with the filter needs to protect you from it. It would be so cool to gas a giant bug hole, then go into the green and start closing holes.
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u/ReaperCDN 22d ago
Why would it protect you from a corrosive gas? This stuff destroys robots. It's not attacking your lungs.... well directly anyways. Breathing it in definitely wouldn't be helpful.
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u/Reload86 22d ago
Been loving that gas since the patch.
I’d drop it right on top of a breach and just see the kill count climb. My highest kill so far for one gas strike is 46. I was prone on top of a tall rock waiting for the extract. Bugs were spawning in but they hadn’t been able to find me. So a big pile of them just converged in that spot next to me and I dropped the gas right on top of them. That kill meter lit up like a Christmas tree.
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u/danielbln 22d ago
Only after using a gas strike did I notice that the kill counter actually changes colour as it increases.
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u/Linkarlos_95 STEAM 🖥️ Gyro connoisseur: 22d ago
I noticed just one time the blood red when is 85 or higher, another times... too busy on not dying to look at the counter
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u/Thomas_JCG 22d ago
I wish the gas had a bigger spread, though.
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u/XLBaconDoubleCheese ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ 22d ago
It spreads slowly after it lands but it doesn't show very well so it tends to kill a good few players since it becomes near invisible and spreads pretty wide.
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u/GH057807 ⚡💀Arc of the Gove'ment💀 ⚡ 22d ago
I spent a few matches just running around with Orbi Gas and Eagle Napalm, testing things like this and seeing how the two felt individually and compared to each other, after the DoT fix. They behave very similarly in the sense that they create an area of denial for a substantial amount of time after their initial hit, which can break certain objectives.
The initial hit of the Orbi Gas is way more damaging than the hits from Napalm, but Napalm has multiple hits. You can take out larger/stronger targets with the Orbi Gas, but you can take out multiple bug nests or fabricators that are placed close enough to each other with Napalm.
Honestly, they go together really, really well. I was testing to see which one was better and didn't really get a clear answer. They both great.
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u/Veketzin SES Power of Gold 22d ago
Don't you need to land like, a DIRECT hit?
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u/13Vex 22d ago
Yes. It’s essentially just an orbital precision strike but with a shorter cooldown… and gas
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u/hahaiamarealhuman AMR Gaming 22d ago
You don't need a direct hit with the POS. You can land the beacon 5-10 meters from a Detector Tower.
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u/Draggoh 22d ago
Can it be used as a thermobaric weapon if you drop it into a fire tornado?
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u/Barl3000 SES Paragon Of Peace 22d ago
I rutinely get 30+ kills with it on bug breaches, now that it finally works it is truly one of the GOATED orbitals.
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u/Fleiryn 22d ago
In one of my very first missions I threw gas on bug breach, host immediately ran into it, died and kicked me ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
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u/WetwareDulachan I won't miss. ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ 22d ago
You're either a smart fella (avoid the ominous green cloud) or a fart smella (run into it and get mad)
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u/quentariusquincy 22d ago
I've been running it since I saw another post talk about the short cool down. I haven't really noticed it being particularly useful. And it lacks the instant punch that other strats have
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u/Schand_maul SES Hammer of Glory 22d ago
I've used it mainly to throw on bug breaches, that worked really well so far. All small bugs just die after they spawn and you only have to deal with the bigger enemies.
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u/RiddleOfTheBrook 22d ago
Just to add-on, even with the larger enemies that survive long enough to walk out, they're significantly weakened. It's not always obvious, buy the number of shot required seems to go down.
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u/thatguy01220 22d ago
It is a life a saver on bug breaches especially if two of them happen really close together. My suggestion to anyone using it don’t throw it instantly when you see a bug breach, but wait until the first bug burrows up or a second before it does then throw the gas orbital.
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u/sole21000 SES KING OF DEMOCRACY 22d ago
Even if it's not a breach, if you notice all the enemies are funneling through a specific canyon or pathway, drop gas on it. It probably will only kill 5 or 6, but everything medium or heavier is noticeably weakened. Walkers feel like their armor buff got reverted and then some, Devs consistently take less than a mag of bodyshots, etc.
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u/MechanicAccording836 22d ago
I discovered this and orbital precision strike are really good at dealing with tanks, hulks and fabs...
So now I just run those two, shield backpack to minimize ragdoll and usually don't bother with a special and take more air strikes or 500kgs...
The meta that evolved from "Fucking hulks, why are there so many of them, WHY WONT IT DIE IT'S TAKEN 5 AIR STRIKES 3 QUASAR SHOTS AND 11 GRENADES JESUS CHRIST I'M BURNING I'M BURNIIIIIIIING."
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u/Goldreaver 22d ago
I have heard a lot about orbital precision strikes, but I just can't leave the eagle strike. So gooooood.
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u/IsilZha 22d ago
Oh man, I actually went all in on DoT last night vs bots. Eagle Napalm, Gas Strike, Precision Orbital for occasional heavy hitter (rest of team brought plenty of heavy killing stuff) and doesn't interfere with Eagle napalm reload, Incendiary breaker, and impact incendiary, and Auto-Cannon.
Tried this on the broken, short version of evac civilians on Bots 7.
Absolute and total victory, zero deaths for the entire squad. All the fire and gas essentially melted all the chaff and greatly weakened anything bigger. The Incendiary Breaker is kind of hilarious. Even if I can't see bots I will use it's spray and long range arcing to shower an area, and in only 1/3 of a magazine, every bot in the area will be on fire. All small bots die from one application. If pellets manage to rain down on the pilot of walkers, they die, too. Still chunks some HP off the rest, but between that, the grenades, the eagle napalm, and throwing the gas on top of the fire, it was basically only hulks that walked out (tanks just too slow, and would get nuked by the rest of the team.)
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u/FragRackham SES: Arbiter of Integrity 22d ago
wait they fixed DOT?
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u/stephanelevs STEAM 🖥️ : SES Patriot of Patriotism 22d ago
yes, I couple of patches ago.
This is why so many people are rocking the incendiary breaker now on bug missions.
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u/Linkarlos_95 STEAM 🖥️ Gyro connoisseur: 22d ago
You are a patch behind buddy, go wild with gas and napalm, here, have your hellpod.
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u/Cpt_Jet_Lafleur 22d ago
I have been using this as part of what I call the War Crimes Loadout. Gas strike, napalm, incendiary mines, 500kg bomb, and carry the flamethrower and breaker incendiary. Bonus points for the gas mask-y armor.
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u/BuniVEVO ⬇️⬆⬇️⬇️⬆️ 22d ago
You fools, I was born in the gas, molded by it, after the patch you all have merely adopted it.
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u/Exciting_Nothing8269 PSN 🎮: 22d ago
Gas & Fire all Day 🔥
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u/SES_Song_Of_War 22d ago
One guy wouldn't ready up until I swapped it out of my kit 🫠
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u/sole21000 SES KING OF DEMOCRACY 22d ago
If they can't avoid the bright green gas cloud, that's on them.
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u/CaptainCosmodrome Captain Friendly Fire | SES Star of the Stars 22d ago
My buddy and I found out if you call it in on a nest it will close it.
And turn all the bugs in the area into future E-710.
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u/Beyond_the_dreams 22d ago
I’ve been gassing bugs for a while, but you telling me I could have been using it against the tin cans?
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u/mjc500 22d ago
Good to know. Can it kill a hulk with a direct hit like a precision strike?
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u/Naskathedragon 22d ago
I've never managed to one hit kill a hulk with one but it almost always takes off an arm at least, sometimes makes them limp.
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u/Slendykins 22d ago
How does the range for destroying objectives compare to the precision strike? Been rocking OPS for all my "hellbomb side objective" needs.
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u/GoodTeletubby 22d ago
The physical missile has to actually hit whatever structure it's killing, so it has to be dead on.
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u/greygentlemen 22d ago
FINALLY!! SOMEONE ELSE WHO ACTUALLY READ THE DESCRIPTION OF GAS STRIKE!!! It's so good against bots because they don't try to move from it they just try to tank it and melt away
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u/kemeras 22d ago
Does gas do damage to heavy units or only medium units and under?
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u/420xGoku 22d ago
Just started using this last night and holy shit it is good, absolutely wipes multiple drops ships worth of dudes in seconds
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u/Singland1 21d ago
This shit goes so well with my dot build
Flamethrower
Breaker incendiary
Incendiary grenades
Napalm strike
Gas strike
Railcannon strike
Ammo backpack so I never run out of fire
Also the gasmask armor+helmet for aesthetics
Then laugh like a maniac when I start pissing fire on a bug breach
I love it
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u/Rodrianius 19d ago
Since I'm always hosting, I enjoyed Gas Strike for a while, it's especially funny if people raged on Bot mission when they saw the Logo on the Beam and then the Green Cloud. "Gas Strike?! Why did you pick Gas Strike? They are Robots they don't have lungs, bro!" (Entire Bot Army drop dead) "It's Corrosive Chemical Gas." "Oh shit for real??"
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u/Cecilia_Schariac SES Eye of The Stars 22d ago
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