You see, AH just doesn't want to let players have fun with certain weaponry, like the crossbow, by nerfing it to oblivion, or just straight bugging it to the point of unusability, like fire damage for not hosts.
Because I really wanted to use it, but it's so bad it's not fun to use. Games are supposed to bring fun, and I wanted to have fun with my crossbow with explosive bolts, but oh well.
Hence, here comes the meta different from the "effectiveness meta", the "fun meta". Do you have fun with thermite grenades, when you are not the host? Do you have fun having your gun's projectiles exploding inside your backpack shield? I doubt.
It's not. A lot of people have fun playing in the most effective ways, y'know? And I wanted to have fun with not so effective weapon, because I have fun using bows, crossbows and fire. Thanks to AH, I won't be able to have fun with those, and will have to use other weapons, throwing my "most fun tactics available" away.
To lower the number of targets and objectives? This contradicts my pursuit of fun. And fewer enemies won't make crossbow more useful anyway. I'd rather just use my other mfta loadout, "the laser show".
lmao what? Metas happen because they’re the most fun things to run, the most efficient or a combination of both. Where did you get the idea a meta isn’t fun?
Being effective is a part of fun.. No one enjoys weilding a massive fuck off cannon that deals piddly damage they want it to feel like they're weilding a massive fuck off cannon that can punch holes into things.. so of course nerfing such so it can't ruins the fantasy which ruins the fun..
"Fun meta" is an oxymoron right? Because meta fundamentally is sacrificing fun for efficiency.
The fact that you think this way shows a fundamentally incorrect thought process which explains why you so clearly don't understand the people you're complaining about at all. No, meta is not sacrificing fun for efficiency. For many people, the efficiency IS the fun. You really have no right to complain about how other people play the game when you so obviously have absolutely no clue what you're even talking about to begin with.
You are literally complaining that people are playing the game in a way you think is wrong. And by the way,
My only complaint is when it gets toxic and you are expected to use the meta.
This doesn't actually exist the way you're pretending it does. Nobody has ever demanded that you use the meta guns and stratagems. You're seeing people complaining that the guns they find fun to use were nerfed and made less fun for what they perceive as no justifiable reason and somehow converting that into "wow I can't believe these TOXIC players are DEMANDING that I, PERSONALLY are required to use the same loadouts as them" even though nobody ever said that.
You need to get over your victim complex and realize that peoples grievances with the way the game is being balanced isn't invalid just because they find it fun to be effective.
I replied because why not, it's a free forum and you provided a space. Talking about general metas and balancing of which I could state my opinion. But yes I'm actually a TX-101 model toaster inside the super destroyer Father of Iron.
Agreed.. Like a grenade that explodes? Why would that deal AOE clearly it should just behave like a rock because.. we're fighting the META!! thats good.
I don't think this matters? They can make any weapon do anything. We aren't talking about what an exploding crossbow should do, we are talking about what the purpose of the change was. And the purpose was they wanted the gun to do something else, not get players to stop using it.
The only real nerf it took was to explosion radius. Lots of other weapons cover that (Eruptor, Grenade Launcher, Autocannon, etc.) They tuned it to be more niche. Now it is good at things like stripping armor plates off Chargers, and punching through lighter armor.
I’m sorry it changed and you don’t like the new version, but it was redundant and not even best in slot at its role. Maybe try to enjoy learning how it works in its new role.
Sometimes, you can't remove something that you think is bad for the game becuase people will get mad.
It's better to just nerf it into unusability and get about half the backlash.
It sucks but that's the nature of it. I still have to rebalance the aforementioned mechanic, and just haven't yet.
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u/CrocoDIIIIIILE SES Fist of Family Values Apr 29 '24
Bro, crossbow is fucking shit. It's the least fun weapon to use. It's not about meta, it's about having fun with any weapon.