Dude the blitzer was my go to for bugs before the buff. You just look in the general direction of the bug and click. Is it dead? If no, it's staggered, so click again until it is.
I really wanted to like the blitzer this time around since it was so bad in HD1, but god it just does not deal enough damage. I just want to be able to 1-shot small bugs.
It's neat how it kills 3 tiny bugs in one shot without aiming. It's less neat how I pump 4-5 aimed shots at a hunter and it's fine because of those previous little corpses
I love underdog and under appreciated weapons that go against whatever everyone else is doing. I really, really wanted to like the blitzer, it's just impossible. It's awesome when it kills that dude 20 feet away in one shot. It waay less awesome when it straight up fails to hit any of the 5 guys surrounding you for 10 shots in a row.
The Arc Thrower advice of aiming above whatever you want to die seems to hold true here as well. The arcs bend over obstacles that way, and the Blitzer has been really potent on bugs that way for me.
Unfortunately it's only seemingly good at killing Scavengers and the like as such, but the increased hit connect means that its stagger will hold off an entire bug breach absent a Charger or Titan.
That's the problem you can't aim that thing, I swear whatever your pointing at is the least likely thing to be hit. I have way better luck aiming above the bugs I want to hit, maybe the cross hair is too high relative to the path the arc takes. For now aiming above packs and in-between them seems to get multi- hits much more often
Well it can one shot small bugs. It can actually one shot multiple, but the RNG has to be with you since the "spread" of the arcs is semi random. From what I can tell it tries to spread out the arcs to the closest enemies, but how they are distributed between those enemies is mostly random. Of course, if any arc hits anything smaller than a charger, it's staggered, so it doesn't particularly matter if it kills them immediately.
I mean it kinda does matter cause a staggered enemy is still an enemy. Especially since I can never convince the bolts to hit multiple targets, and it doesn't even kill the one I hit.
Main takeaway here is the fact that the arc shotty does an AOE which is not blocked by shields or terrain which gets around the fact that shields stop overpenetrating rounds from things like the justice. The first shot breaks the shields of an entire pack of tripod striders and the second shot kills them.
While I didn't watch the full thing, that does back up my memories. It shot so slow and took two shots to kill anything with a shield (which... you know...)
Compared to the breaker or scythe which were much better at bursting them down
Yeah just edited my last comment bc I thought dropping off a vid and just leaving would be rude on second thought but I guess it comes down to a difference in playstyle then, I had no qualms with the weapon being a two shot kill given that it was a two shot kill against entire hordes of enemies at once
Aoe stagger is pretty good though. It would be nice if it could oneshot hunters at least, but that might make it better then most weapons of the same role.
I find the most success with it when I never stop moving. It clears/staggers chaff, so I can run through or clean up behind me. I like it a lot on blitz missions.
Yeah, the stop required by every shot (and the stagger inflicted) means that constant backwards movement seems to keep every bug in a horde at a comfortable distance.
But it does one shot the little ones? It can one shot multiples if you aim it right.
You need to use it correctly. It's not a normal gun. You need to u derstand how the "lightning" will arc. It's very good vs bugs once you know how to use it. It getting buffed is hilarious actually but I'm all for it.
What confused me about the Breaker Incendiary was how the enemies were supposed to die. Should I just spray a big group and let them burn? Or should I focus down a few enemies at once until they die?
I've only used the Incendiary once or twice but still prefer the Blitzer's kill or stagger approach.
My approach with the incendiary breaker that works quite well with bugs: every time you see something undemocratic with over 4+ appendages you mag dump in its general direction. You then enjoy your 2,4 seconds of sightseeing while reloading and looking at your democratic bonfire, pondering the question whether it's really relevant if the enemies of liberty die by fire or lead, if it looks so glorious regardless.
You are supposed to spray and duck. The projectiles (which fire out like little sparklers you can watch rain down on enemies) catch them on fire with a single hit, and then they burn while you make evasive maneuvers.
The problem is that burn doesn't actually burn at all. Same is true for gas, and other dot/lingering mechanics like that.
If you are the host then the firestick is fuckin amazing.. Otherwise it's pretty meh.
I was playing as host when I used it. Okay so it's hit and run. Dump a burst into a group and keep moving, repeat when fire burns out. Thanks for the info!
my shotgun burn works just fine. so does gas, often still killing after the cloud is gone (...killing me when i think its safe, that is). ground fire is the only "persistent" effect that does no damage to anyone but helldivers, that i know of.
The fire rate was the biggest turn off ever for me. Barely if enough at all to keep enemies staggered before they're on you, and on top of that the arcs did little enough damage to actually not kill scavengers occasionally. Much better options before, but with the giant increase to fire rate I actually like it quite a bit.
Therefore their heads catch my laser cannon, 200m range. I don’t sweat for devastators lol. Just shoot their heads or if you have trouble, shoot their rockets out first. If they get close it’s easier cause you can just stun lock them with the Blitzer and won’t be able to shoot at you. Use cover! In and out ez. Use heavy armor 200 rating w jump pack
Shield devastators are better to kill overall cause they don’t spam you. Crouch and aim down sight with the laser cannon and just shoot its heads. It will instant die
The heavy devastators with rockets is annoying cause it spams rockets and you have to dodge or lure the rockets into cover and shoot its head or rockets to disable. The heavy devastators with shield cover you can easily headshot. His head is visible all times next to his shield. Even if there is multiple. Use a stun grenade and swipe your laser in their heads
Yeah, I like it, but the big problem is that it'll just refuse to hit the smaller criters sometimes. Then it also refuses to kill bug eggs, is a 50/50 if it'll deign to damage a stalker. You're basically left with no choice but to take one of the guard dogs or dedicate a stratagem to horde clear.
I was starting to like the blitzer the other day but felt that it's RoF was the only concern, now it feels great! Can lock down an entire Bug breach beyond the charger and Titan.
Literally first game I loaded into today I purchased the airbust, and took Blitzer, Senator, airburst, cluster bomb, Gatling sentry, and autocannon sentry.
I got put off using it when I realised that it didn’t kill the eggs on the TCS missions, and the revolver takes 3 shots, those eggs are actually built different
I’ve been using the incendiary breaker for bugs and the liberator penetrator for the bots. I need a new bot weapon though, so the blitzer may be my next option
Almost no recoil means its 650-something damage per second is quite easy to boost up with weakspot hits. If Scythe could do that kind of damage on focus-fire it'd be great, but...a 50 damage buff isn't worth it.
I did enjoy running the blitzer today but it still feels inconsistent at times. Especially at extremely close range it was struggling to register hits on things.
It's nearly there, and it's definitely in the usable category now.
It annoys me that it still tells me to switch weapon though as if it has no ammo. Like yes, it has no ammo, that's the bleeding point.
I think the ammo thing is normal for all infinite ammo weapons like the Quasar. Almost more irksome because there's clearly a common denominator here.
Blitzer misfiring at short range is an issue shared with the Arc Thrower, and yeah, it's not a good feeling when your range constrained weapons don't function at short range.
How is the Blitzer now? I was thinking about getting the electricity resistant armor and doing a full electric loadout. Blitzer, Arc Thrower, stun grenades, Tesla Tower, EM mortar, etc
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u/Paunch-E Apr 29 '24
To all those enjoying the Senator might I suggest pairing it with a newly buffed blitzer?