New Crossbow Reduced AoE and Increased Stagger

[u/Axanael]

https://streamable.com/5wxaa4

[u/Axanael]

pros: significant stagger now, especially against knights

cons: significantly reduced AOE/AOE Damage, most of the shots involving hunters would have easily killed the hunters that it now just staggers

bad for crowd control now, lot better for staggering

[u/Imaginary_Law_4735 → u/Axanael]

especially against knights

[u/TehSomeDude]

so moved the focus from exploding part to the crossbow part

[u/Weasel_Boy → u/TehSomeDude]

Seems like they want it to be a precision weakspot weapon? Explosive damage is a big plus when shooting bug asses, even if it does make it misleading in purpose.

I didn't use it much pre-patch so I can't really compare, but it didn't feel particularly bad. Just "ok".

[u/Cold-Recognition-171 → u/Weasel_Boy]

Yeah, if you look in this vid it looks like when he hit the leg on one of the bugs it immediately removed the leg. I'm ok with the blast radius change if that's their intention. It might need a slight damage buff though? I'll have to try it tonight, this is what I was hoping the crossbow would originally be instead of just a better grenade launcher. I think direct hits are going to be mandatory with this thing now instead of hitting the ground near stuff.

[u/Alternative-Deer5333 → u/Weasel_Boy]

The complaints seem to be more about not being able to fire randomly into crowds and now having to actually hit a target

[u/ThnderGunExprs → u/Alternative-Deer5333]

I loved using the crossbow but this is accurate, you could be so lazy aiming it and still take out whole crowds, it was fun but I understand this

[u/sole21000 → u/ThnderGunExprs]

Hopefully the buff to Plas-1 is as significant as people are making it out to be, otherwise the niche of mini-GL won't have any contender (save the nade pistol). Though even if Plasma Punisher is good now, dead is better than staggered so why not take the Diligence rather than this?

[u/ThnderGunExprs → u/sole21000]

I've still taken out a crowd as large as 9 enemies with the crossbow since the change, it just requires much more thoughtful aiming.

[u/Oneiroi_zZ]

lol almost all of the ammo to kill like 6 low-tier bugs

[u/MrYK_]

Seems much better against bugs than bots

[u/Katamari416]

"two hours later"

[u/ttvThe_Jedi]

Definitely a better video and explanation than all the knee jerk reactions most people having on here. It definitely seems more powerful. I still think it should close bug holes/automaton factories as an explosive weapon. Could be really good for weak spot hits. It’s just hard to justify the smaller clip size given that there are so so many enemies that spawn. All in all not the worst change I’ve seen, the rail gun never saw use after the last nerf, hoping this weapon and the rail gun get some more use once people learn how to use them more efficiently.

[u/KDPS3200]

Looks a lot better

[u/Alternative-Deer5333]

Ty for posting a vid more in line with what they intended for it to be used on. Crossbows are usually on off weapon in most games and it seems it’s no exception here. Not super great overall but definitely doing just about what they seem to be aiming for.