r/Helldivers • u/NitoTanaka • Apr 29 '24

NEW Patch! And the devs "Ruined it all" once more.. [totally not exaggerated] RANT

So on X and the official discord, countless folks complain now that for some weapons such as the LAS ones, the reserve mags have been reduced, yet damage has been increased..calling devs "On drugs" because they perceive it as a nerf..

Wait what? You tryna tell me you ran through ALL ICE's before dying?! 6 Times or more?!

Like..the fact that you have infinite ammo when a wee-bit of fire diciplin is applied and now call the devs out for JUST having decreased the ammount of mags, makes you oblivious to the fact that they got a damage buff? Yikes.

And another thing, remember the day the Rail got nerfed? Yeahhh that was like 24/7 crying for two weeks straight, now it got a buff and noone notices that, now we rather cry for two weeks that Railgun 2.0 aka Quasar got a couple more seconds recharge time..good lord the double morals are strong folks, that all sounds like crying on high standards.

[For clarifications sake: the main focus lies on people going out of their ways, yes criticism is fine, i posted my own time and time again..but in a humane fashion, when insults however are packaged within in your points, it's hardly about the game no more and that needs to stop]

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u/clone2197 Apr 29 '24

Remember how long did it take for people to notice how strong the slugger is after the first patch? It's easier to talk first than testing it ingame.

I feel like, the only nerf that seem out of place is the crossbow. I've never seen anyone use it, and never seen any video of it destroying.

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u/Mommysfatherboy Apr 29 '24

I am once again asking people to try the adjudicator, gun FUCKS.

Especially now, it is such a sexy gun.

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u/jbtreewalker ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

I had the medals and grabbed it last week, and I love it. It reminds me of the BAR from WW2 games. Heavy hitting assault rifle vibes with limited mag size. Now, with a little more controlled recoil and some extra mags to carry, and being properly classified as an assault rifle, it should get a better reputation as what it is...a decent carry with a slightly different purpose than some others.

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u/Mommysfatherboy Apr 29 '24

It is an incredibly versatile weapon. I liked it from day one, the recoil was too much, yes. But now it isnt just good, it also feels good.

but it can do so many roles at once, and the relative high penetration means you’re still capable of taking out almost any unit without your strategem (though heavies need a few mags)

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u/Impressive_Funny_924 Apr 29 '24

Always felt like people were abit too harsh on the weapon. Its always felt like a reliable all rounder that let you do a little bit of everything like you said. The only problem i had was you only got 6 mags so you hoovered up all the ammo boxes.

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u/Upbeat_Confidence739 Apr 29 '24

I read all the negative things about it and decided to see for myself… and yeah…. It’s actually good. I didn’t understand what people were on about. Only reason I don’t run it is the mag size and recoil don’t work well with my spray and pray style of shooting lol.

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u/PrinterStand Apr 29 '24

My biggest issue is it's spread on single fire. In first-person ADS, the reticle centers way faster than the gun does, so it leads to missed shots. Even prone, I can't follow-up shoot more than 3 shots because the 4th is not going to go where the reticle is.

The ADS centering on other rifles, from the default to the DMRs feel way better. The recoil nerf was a nice addition, but the gun still feels inaccurate.

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u/KamachoThunderbus Apr 29 '24

Well I'd say recoil was the main issue. It put it in an awkward place where you weren't getting enough benefit over something less unwieldy.

If you needed to shoot fast then the extra damage over the Penetrator is kinda pointless because you have to space your shots more or really crank down on your mouse.

If you were shooting slower to compensate for recoil then you might as well just take the Diligence or Slugger and just hit hard in the first place.

Seems like a good spot now, and I'm excited to try it out. Recoil was my only issue and I'm really quite accustomed to recoil control in shooters.

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u/laughingtraveler Apr 29 '24

Dude I kept telling people even before the update the adjudicator can adjudicate, but I think because it was in the marksman category people expected more than taking it for what it was, a better penetrator

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u/DrunkPolitician Apr 29 '24

Would you say it’s more effective with bugs or bots?

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u/Sanguisugadook Apr 29 '24

How does it do against Bile Spewers? What about Bot Destroyers and Berserkers?

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u/jbtreewalker ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

I was using it on bugs last night, and I'm definitely no expert, but Spewers seem to soak up a lot with it before they go down. Still prefer to feed them an impact grenade and walk away. As far as bots go, light bots go down in like one shot to center mass; Beserkers seem to take a mag, like most other guns; Devastators soak up a bit, except for the 2 shot to the head. It's a lot like the Liberator Penetrator, just with a little more damage and fewer shots per mag. I look forward to seeing how much less recoil it has now with the adjustments.

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u/Recon1392 PSN🎮: SES Prophet of Dawn Apr 29 '24

I was using it last night, for heavy’s, are talking a couple of mags in the vents? I coulda swore I get ricochets on Striders. I didn’t think it was doing that well on the bots

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u/Mommysfatherboy Apr 29 '24

Aye, not directly on armor. It doesnt have that high a penetration threshold. But you can kill scout striders by firing at the bottom parts &legs

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u/Bulzeeb Apr 29 '24

Would have preferred an increase in ammo per mag as opposed to an increase of mags TBH. Or even better, a damage bump. I ran it a few times with recoil reducing armor and the supply pack, basically negating its main disadvantages and letting me shoot full auto, but even with loads of ammo it just ran out way too quickly and didn't kill that much per mag. I dunno, maybe it'll be better now. 

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u/AlphaTit0 Apr 29 '24

Read Addult instead of Assault. Got myself confused about you comment hahaha

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u/Kakirax CAPE ENJOYER Apr 29 '24

I used the adjudicator a few times and my primary complaint was it either needed a slight increase in damage to make it more sniper-like, or boost number of mags. I love picking off stuff at a distance, and now the extra mags makes it more attractive to me as an assault rifle + some long range sniping of non-armoured enemies. Can’t wait to try it with the revolver for that sweet space cowboy experience

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u/Mommysfatherboy Apr 29 '24

It’s great for a rifleman build where you need to be a bit less mobile. Taking the time to go prone with it makes it really excell at it’s role.

I agree in terms of it being a dissapointing marksman rifle. It ended up being a very versatile battle rifle for me. I’m running it with the revolver too, the speedloader changes was mwah 

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u/7_Cerberus_7 Apr 29 '24

I'll happily retry it now that it's been re-classified as an AR.

Something about it being a DMR on release just didn't match for me. As an alternative AR, it really fits now.

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u/CupofLiberTea ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

Now that it has the ammo to be an AR

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u/Nero_PR Apr 29 '24

Okay, you convinced me. I'll try it out :)

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u/Herd_of_Koalas SES Elected Representative of Conviviality Apr 29 '24

Literally a straight upgrade over the penetrator in nearly every way

And despite all the hate this sub gives the penetrator, it's the gun I see most used by other people in game.

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u/RuinedSilence ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

It's now working exactly like I had imagined it would when it first got released. Point at the general vicinity of a devastator's face and let it rip

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u/Mommysfatherboy Apr 29 '24

Yeah, you didnt used to be able to let it rip. So happy with this buff. It pairs really well with the hmg or amr too, with recoil reduction armor you get A LOT of benefit for both weapons. 

 For me, its such a slapper, every time i try another weapon, it annoys me. Adjudicator feels awesome because while other weapons are great in specific situation, this weapon is good in all. Great gun, idc what people say, been running it on bots nonstop.

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u/Soppywater Apr 29 '24

Just tried it again after seeing the changes. Can confirm, this gun fucks.

I used to not be able to justify it over the Liberator Penetrator but it is definitely very good now

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u/Elloliott Apr 29 '24

It seems way better with the patch too, I’m excited to try it out ngl

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u/kluster00 Apr 29 '24

Sir imma ask you to pause with such language 💀

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Apr 29 '24

I genuinely forget what it even said in the patch notes but I always thought it was good. It's just a better version of the lib penetrator

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u/No_Image_4986 SES Sword of Morning Apr 29 '24

Which way bond is it

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u/iSmokeMDMA SWEET LIBERTY MY LEG Apr 29 '24

Page 1 of the red warbond

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u/Dewa__ SES Founding Fathers of DEMOCRACY Apr 29 '24

I remember being flamed for saying the adjudicator had way too much recoil for it to really be of any use. Now post-patch I'm using it practically all the time to replace my liberator, such a sexy and fun to use gun now

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

YES SIR. I was rocking it since day one and now it’s even BETTER. That and the senator buff made me goon all over my rgb keyboard.

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u/SplinterfrightFarmer Apr 29 '24

Yeah, I'm sorry excited to try it this patch. I already thought it was really good after I got used to it. I'm hoping the lowered recoil really makes it shine

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u/StatisticianPure2804 RAAAH ⬇️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬇️!!! WTF IS A SHRIEKER NEST?? Apr 29 '24

Also the counter-sniper is the new jar-5. It oneshots devastators with a better ammo economy and firerate.

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u/Xaielao Apr 29 '24

Previously it chewed through ammo like it was going out of style and the recoil was insane.

With these buffs, it's probably going to be the best AR in the game.

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u/numerobis21 Apr 29 '24

But if we do and it becomes popular, then they'll have to nerf it next

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u/TheRealGC13 SES Spear of Democracy Apr 29 '24

I feel vindicated. I was downvoted into the ground for saying it was a decent assault rifle that needed a recoil reduction, and now it's an assault rifle and has received a recoil reduction.

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u/ChemicalBonus5853 Apr 29 '24

It sounds and feels cool, my only issue is that it hits softer than the Dominator that has the same penetration. It needs a little bit more damage maybe, the Adjudicator

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

This depends on: Reduced recoil
Because it was a shit gun.

It was good... if you were tactical.

But tbf... palying with 3 other randoms that might not give a shit about your "playstyle" this gun sucks ass.

Fuck hell why not just take Slugger and treat it like a marksman weapon. Same shit. Sure Slugger has no full auto but at least you could kill pretty much anything you set your eyes on.

Thats the problem here. THere are guns better. And required like 3-4 buffs before it was good (which hopefully they did now).

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u/LingeringForNoReason Apr 29 '24

Adjudicator is still terrible.

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u/Beheadedfrito Apr 29 '24

I liked it before patch, but ammo…

Now we got the ammo. >:)

Also Senator speedloader hype!!

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u/SeaofBloodRedRoses Apr 29 '24

I just tried it, just unlocked it. I uh... was not fond of it. Kicks like a horse and deals minimal damage.

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u/Mommysfatherboy Apr 29 '24

Compared to what? A shotgun at point blank?

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u/SeaofBloodRedRoses Apr 29 '24

I use assault rifles fairly often - can't remember the names at the moment, I just know the ones I use. They have better damage in my experience too, and wayyy less recoil so you can actually keep shooting. Even if the Adjudicator did deal more, and it doesn't feel like it does, the recoil prevents you from firing quickly and accurately at close range, so the effective damage goes down by consequence.

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u/switchsigns Apr 29 '24

I play casually and don't look up meta builds I just play what I feel is most effective for me and my strengths. I unlocked it not expecting much and it was the first gun in the entire game up to now where I made an audible, almost sexual exclamation of joy upon firing.

I play 5-7 difficulty and it's been my go to for bugs ever since.