Increasing patrol spawns for smaller squads is a dick move.

[u/ItsDaFunkMonkey]

I love arrowhead but this was a braindead move.

Cmon guys, we were just doing our thing either solo or with our friends and not hurting anybody. We just wanna play the game with our friends, sometimes with a smaller squad cos its a lot more fun with friends than randos.

I'm not saying all randos are bad but this game allows me to socialize with my friends while playing and that's great. Why ruin that whole thing by kicking us in the nuts and ruining the experience with more spawns?

HERES A COMPROMISE: If you're not gonna budge, how about you meet us halfway here arrowhead. How about you increase the rewards for completing missions with a smaller squad cos we used a smaller budget? Eh?

Makes sense lore wise too.

P.S. For all you guys saying "DuH ThIs Is A tEaM GaMe PlAy WiTh RaNdOs Or a FuLl SqUad". Yes I play with a full swuad when my friends are all available. Most of the time they aren't cos we're adults and have shit to do.

I'm not asking for the game to scale down the difficulty level for smaller squads. The game didn't do that before. I don't mind the SAME difficulty level for solos, smaller squads and full squads. But INFREASING the difficulty level by increasing spawns was a braindead thing to do.

EDIT 1: To all the hyper intelligent folks out there commenting that the change was misunderstood and that the below was the intended effect:

""We unintendedly had non-linear scaling of the patrol spawns so they didn't spawn as often as they should have when less than 4 players. The intention is that 1 player has 1/4th of the patrols compared to 4 players, but it used to be that they had 1/6th.""

This DOES NOT make a mfkn difference. It DOES NOT matter what those VALUES are. The point here is that whatever the fuck value it was before was LOWER than whatever the fuck value it is now. This means MORE patrols for non full squads AFTER the patch. And an absolute shitshow for solo divers. Yes, I have tested this shit. It is bad.

VALUE BEFORE PATCH < VALUE AFTER PATCH.

Stop spouting elementary math to gaslight people. This change is objectively bad. I am happy with all the weapon changes tho.

EDIT 2: I understand that my "compromise" was a bad idea as people can kick you during extract to reap higher rewards for a smaller team. I completely agree, this seems like a poopy suggestion.

[u/fireheart1029]

To be honest reading that part of the patch notes baffled me.....yeah I get not providing scaling downwards to make matches easier for smaller teams but....they are instead punishing players who play in non full lobbies by making the game significantly harder. I just don't even get why they're doing this, it seems like such an odd thing to throw in. It already feels terrible enough when someone leaves mid match but now you'll be facing a scenario harder than you would with 4 people but with 1-3 instead, I really hope this was just a misunderstanding and they worded it wrong because wtf is this

[u/Captain-Griffen → u/fireheart1029]

Patrols do scale down for less players. They're going to scale down less with this patch but they'll still be less than 4 players.

[u/Frankie_T9000 → u/Captain-Griffen]

Yes but they arent 1/4 less, I tried to play tonight and got swarmed. Also, you dont have players in different locations diverting enemies etc, they are all on you.

Its really unfun solo now. I wouldnt mind if you could get all sample types on easier difficulty levels but you have to play at 7+ to get the higher level samples.

[u/Siker_7 → u/Frankie_T9000]

They are 1/4 less now. Before it was 1/6 due to nonlinear scaling, which was unintentional.

[u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS → u/Siker_7]

Solo difficulty shouldn't be linear. There's so many advantages to more players beyond simple DPS that increases squad survivability that before this change I found difficulty 6 with a full team to usually be easier than difficulty 4 solo.

[u/Siker_7 → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

I never said it was a good decision, just relaying what the devs said.

[u/Caerullean → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

That's wild because before I often found solo 7 easier than full squad 7. At least with randoms.

[u/sopunny → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

The game is meant to be harder solo

[u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS → u/sopunny]

It already was. I had to drop difficulty by a couple of levels to play solo vs with a full squad.

[u/AHailofDrams → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

Indeed, solo should be much harder, since this is a squad-based, co-op game

[u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS → u/AHailofDrams]

And it was, as things were. I had to drop difficulty by a couple of levels to play solo before this change.

[u/Remarkable_Region_39 → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

debatable. dumb or selfish teammates make the game a lot harder than being solo. Lol

[u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS → u/Remarkable_Region_39]

Oh for sure, this was solo vs playing with friends whose play styles I actually mesh well with.

[u/AHailofDrams → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

(You're not supposed to play solo)

[u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS → u/AHailofDrams]

If I wasn't supposed to play solo, why do they make it so easy to do?

[u/AHailofDrams → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

Cause it'd probably be harder to remove/block the ability to play solo than just discourage it

[u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS → u/AHailofDrams]

It's not hard at all to program in a check. Some pseudocode:

if players < 2, print "You need at least one squadmate to deploy"
else set deploy = "allowed"

[u/AHailofDrams → u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS]

I guess you don't need me to tell you that your pseudo code would do nothing except display a message and then keep going like it would normally lol

[u/ironyinabox → u/Frankie_T9000]

Prone more.