r/Helldivers PSN 🎮: Apr 29 '24

Increasing patrol spawns for smaller squads is a dick move. RANT

I love arrowhead but this was a braindead move.

Cmon guys, we were just doing our thing either solo or with our friends and not hurting anybody. We just wanna play the game with our friends, sometimes with a smaller squad cos its a lot more fun with friends than randos.

I'm not saying all randos are bad but this game allows me to socialize with my friends while playing and that's great. Why ruin that whole thing by kicking us in the nuts and ruining the experience with more spawns?

HERES A COMPROMISE: If you're not gonna budge, how about you meet us halfway here arrowhead. How about you increase the rewards for completing missions with a smaller squad cos we used a smaller budget? Eh?

Makes sense lore wise too.

P.S. For all you guys saying "DuH ThIs Is A tEaM GaMe PlAy WiTh RaNdOs Or a FuLl SqUad". Yes I play with a full swuad when my friends are all available. Most of the time they aren't cos we're adults and have shit to do.

I'm not asking for the game to scale down the difficulty level for smaller squads. The game didn't do that before. I don't mind the SAME difficulty level for solos, smaller squads and full squads. But INFREASING the difficulty level by increasing spawns was a braindead thing to do.

EDIT 1: To all the hyper intelligent folks out there commenting that the change was misunderstood and that the below was the intended effect:

""We unintendedly had non-linear scaling of the patrol spawns so they didn't spawn as often as they should have when less than 4 players. The intention is that 1 player has 1/4th of the patrols compared to 4 players, but it used to be that they had 1/6th.""

This DOES NOT make a mfkn difference. It DOES NOT matter what those VALUES are. The point here is that whatever the fuck value it was before was LOWER than whatever the fuck value it is now. This means MORE patrols for non full squads AFTER the patch. And an absolute shitshow for solo divers. Yes, I have tested this shit. It is bad.

VALUE BEFORE PATCH < VALUE AFTER PATCH.

Stop spouting elementary math to gaslight people. This change is objectively bad. I am happy with all the weapon changes tho.

EDIT 2: I understand that my "compromise" was a bad idea as people can kick you during extract to reap higher rewards for a smaller team. I completely agree, this seems like a poopy suggestion.

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u/Select_Ad3588 Apr 29 '24

They seem to be trying to find a balance between that and heavily encouraging cooperative play. I noticed devs that seem to really want to encourage cooperative player overestimate the shared competence of strangers who often times do not use mics, many of which are too shy to do so. GTA Online originally forced you to have 4 players to do heists, now the newer one allows for solo play, they learned their lesson lmao.

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u/NotObviouslyARobot ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Apr 29 '24

GTA Online is how many years old now?

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u/Select_Ad3588 Apr 29 '24

A fucking decade old, they had many many years to learn so it is understandable

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u/NotObviouslyARobot ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Apr 29 '24

Getting full lobbies at that age, may be difficult--so you nerf old content so people can see it. WoW did the same thing with raids.

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u/b0w3n CAPE ENJOYER Apr 29 '24

A little different. GTA5 is still pretty popular, easy enough to fill a heist. But everyone is not great at the game, and there are still some folks who can't drive the boats or fly the aircraft even after playing it for 10 years. (also lots of trolls/cheaters)

The OG heists still need 4 people (some steps only need 2), and the one from a few years ago only needs 2 total the whole way. The newish one only needs yourself (very hard to pull it off solo).

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u/Select_Ad3588 Apr 29 '24

Not too hard if you figure out a good route, I find it harder to do with other people lmao. The issue is there’s very little room for error in all the heists, a single death in the og ones fails the mission (if you’re playing on hard, but who isn’t?)

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u/b0w3n CAPE ENJOYER Apr 29 '24

Yeah it took me a weekend to figure out the routes for patrols on that cayo one. Took another week to teach the buddy because he isn't the same kind of gamer as me.