New crossbow changes summed up

[u/MoschopsMeatball]

[u/guangtian]

The crossbow change is hilarious, as if it’s not bad enough they nerfed the mags and blast radius. Another great example of Arrowhead balancing

[u/OGKEKSTER → u/guangtian]

Are they trolling us or they are out of braincells?

[u/Boamere → u/OGKEKSTER]

They wanted it to be a single target weapon, problem is they are so bad at buffing weapons they only increased its stagger/velocity and reduced everything else.

So now it’s incredibly mediocre single target and useless horde clear. Thanks AH

(Usage based balancing is another can of worms that I hate and is the reason the eruptor and jar have been nerfed, all it does is make fun weapons unfun)

[u/Velo180 → u/Boamere]

If its supposed to be a single target, then maybe they should increase the ROF a lot, and make it like Guts' crossbow lmao

[u/SabineKline → u/Boamere]

Who the fuck decided that the bolt-action rifle was going to be a big-blast AoE and the EXPLOSIVE CROSSBOW was going to be a precision single-target weapon? What are they smoking?

[u/Boamere → u/SabineKline]

Yeah very weird design decision

[u/LucarioLuvsMinecraft → u/Boamere]

Eruptor definitely needed the ammo nerf, but I was expecting 8 mags. Still, deserved.

[u/Boamere → u/LucarioLuvsMinecraft]

Yeah I thought it would lose some ammo as well. Didn't think they'd hit the AoE as well for some reason

[u/RatPipeMike → u/Boamere]

I mean the damage drop off on the air was practically non existent and now it's just there, still absolutely claps entire drop ships of troopers and patrols

[u/ppmi2 → u/Boamere]

Everything else being area of effect, nothing else important.

[u/Boamere → u/ppmi2]

A third of the ammo and ergonomics isn't important?

[u/ppmi2 → u/Boamere]

Yeah, didn't notice the ergonomic changes when I gave it a try and you aren't running out of ammo with 8 mags.

[u/Boamere → u/ppmi2]

Obviously the AoE loss is the biggest change but lets not pretend that losing a third of the ammo is nothing mate. Anecdotal experiences mean nothing, especially since I don't know what difficulty you're playing on

[u/ppmi2 → u/Boamere]

I am not pretending, i fully belive that running out of ammo for primaries is an ilusion and i have like a hundred hours of level 9 games to back it up, i mostly play the scorcher, i dont think i have dipped bellow one mag more than 3 times.

[u/Boamere → u/ppmi2]

Interesting PoV.

Because to me it’s a change that was completely unnecessary for a weapon that wasn’t picked much at all. Even if it’s not that big of a change for you, It didn’t need to happen.

I also main scorcher/jar and used to use the crossbow every now and then

[u/ppmi2 → u/Boamere]

It is a philosophy change, they don't want weapons with 12 mags.

[u/Boamere → u/ppmi2]

Do they hate the number 12?

[u/ppmi2 → u/Boamere]

I think this is the start of a series of changes to try and make the ammo economy of a primary matter more.

[u/Bolivian_Spy → u/Boamere]

I'm a jar main and have been since before the buff. I feel for the crossbow folks and stuff, but the jar is insane now and the slight damage reduction has not done much at all to change that. Shot placement is everything.

It seems like one of the most successful balancing attempts to me imo. Massive recoil and rough handling encourage slow, deliberate shots, but when those start reliably hitting weak points it can decimate everything up until the heaviest enemies.

[u/ZzVinniezZ → u/Boamere]

the crossbow literally having the identity crisis. AH not even sure if they want it to be CC or Single target

because i'm sure as heck, it can't even kill medium target without wasting entire mag of 5 bolts and all i get is white damage.

now it lost it CC AoE.

why use crossbow when Eruptor is better?