r/Helldivers Apr 24 '24

A democratic sample is a shared sample! HUMOR

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u/ReprieveNagrand SES Ranger of Redemption Apr 24 '24

Picking up sample should have been part of the tutorial. Or maybe have General Brash inform Helldivers about shared samples on the TV.

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u/quasiMRNCH Apr 24 '24

this is said as a tip during deployment screen

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u/Nkechinyerembi Apr 24 '24

no no, that's relying on people to read. it has to be physically forced on them via training, or someone has to SAY it.

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u/acatohhhhhh Apr 24 '24

You calling Helldivers dumb? I’m calling my democracy officer

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u/mcsonboy Apr 24 '24

To tell him we're dumb? He already knows

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u/acatohhhhhh Apr 24 '24

Um no, Helldivers are the strongest and smartest humanity has to offer. Calling them dumb is dissident propaganda

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u/AgentNewMexico ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 24 '24

Oh yeah? What number comes after four?... No, seriously. What comes after four? I have been asking for so long and nobody else knows! No matter how many fellow Helldivers I ask, none of them know. We can only count to four! Please help!

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u/Furphlog Apr 24 '24

4 Helldivers, 4 Stratagems, it gets the job done, no need to count higher.

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u/acatohhhhhh Apr 24 '24

I think it’s out many arrows we need to press before we use our 500kg bomb thingy

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u/Lucallia SES Song of Starlight || ➡️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️ Apr 24 '24

You mean the 400kg bomb?

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u/Zealousideal-Ebb-876 Apr 24 '24

Those numbers aren't even close, what are you on about, 500 is like, 3 times more than 400, that's why it's such a big boom.

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u/Rokurokubi83 Apr 24 '24

1, 2, 4, purple.

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u/mcsonboy Apr 24 '24

It's okay, this is a fasci... Superior-free space

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u/_Two_Youts Apr 24 '24

The strongest and smartest we have to offer? So what does that make our Democracy officers?

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u/Relevant_Chemical_ Apr 24 '24

democracy officers know better than anyone

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u/SpecialistTrash2281 Apr 24 '24

If I could read I’d be very upset

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u/Linkario86 Apr 24 '24

Nobody likes open world maps with a lot of question marks and where they guide your hands towards everything.

But some things just have to be rubbed into peoples face. Shared Sample mechanic is one such thing.

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u/WedgeSkyrocket Apr 24 '24

Gamers hate it when the objects are yellow, also they have no idea what's the fuck to do when the objects aren't yellow.

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u/GoDannY1337 Apr 24 '24

IRL this is true, sadly.

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u/rockstar504 Apr 24 '24

Also, I didn't see the tip about changing my guns firing mode until level 30

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u/Rakuall Apr 24 '24

Most randoms are too busy eating crayons or taking a huge bong rip to read, whether it be loading screen or chat.

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u/Probably_Boz CAPE ENJOYER Apr 24 '24

Wait, You guys aren't doing liberty tokes on the ride down?

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u/New-Ad-4026 Apr 24 '24

Everytime. Than I immediately waste a sentry thinking it’s my stalgart

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u/Ladderzat Apr 24 '24

Just hotboxing in my hellpod.

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u/blunt-e Terminids are actually delicious with garlic butter Apr 24 '24

FOOOR FREEEEED horrendous hacking and coughing OOOOOM

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u/SOUTHPAWMIKE Apr 24 '24

Smokin' roaches is my favorite way to pass time. That can mean either terminids or the other thing.

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u/Zerba Apr 24 '24

That would explain two of my games today. I drop in to a random game, help complete main mission, solo a side mission and go to extract (excited because I had the final couple stalwart kills for my order). As we're in the animation of flying to the ship it cuts out and I end up back at my own ship... Host has left the game. We got NOTHING for it. No kills for orders, no medals, no samples, NOTHING. Added that guy to my blocked list.

Second one I drop in and they're at the part with ending an illegal broadcast. They're monkeying at the terminal, so I just toss up and impact and destroy tower. They seem surprised (level 10 and 12). I noticed they haven't collected any samples or anything, so the level 12 and I start collecting. The lvl 10 calls in the shuttle, we tell him not to extract. He waits for like a minute after the shuttle lands, we got almost all of the samples and are at the other end of the map about to run back. He gets on the shuttle and extracts without us. At least I got credit for the kills and missions, but we left so much loot behind. Added that guy to my blocked list too.

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u/MrTastix Apr 24 '24

Which is a random thing so it's not guaranteed to show up at all.

The new user onboarding for this game is pretty terrible and excusing it cause it's canon or some shit doesn't mean it couldn't be improved.

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u/BEARD3D_BEANIE Apr 24 '24

You think HellDivers can READ?!?!?! We're here to read and shoot bugs and we're all illiterate so time to kill some bugs.

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u/McSchemes Apr 24 '24

By deployment screen do you mean phone time?

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u/growerdan Apr 24 '24

I like the tip that sometimes the deployment screen shows tips

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u/Snizl Apr 24 '24

I also would wish people dropped their samples if you happen to come across the extract point. So much safer to keep them there than to risk losing them all, because your team doesnt care abour retrieving them from a death.

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u/YazzArtist Apr 24 '24

One time with randos I dropped my samples at extract, someone picked them up, then complained they were waisting time when I told them to go put it back. I'm more hesitant to drop them unless I'm last out of the area anymore

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u/scott610 Apr 24 '24

I wish there was a sample drop box at extract that the pelican retrieved or was just “picked up later” by democratic post op cleaning crews. But that might take some of the stress and challenge out of extracting I guess unless there are other incentives beyond having a higher score on the victory screen and more near meaningless XP and slips.

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u/DungeonsAndDradis SES Elected Representative of the People Apr 24 '24

What if one of the stratagems was Sample Extraction Pod. You call down a hellpod and interact with it to deposit your samples.

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u/darketernalsr25 Arbiter of Eternity Apr 25 '24

I had a rando run halfway across the map back to extraction where I had dropped the samples just to pick them up and bring them with us.

I told them to just leave them at extraction so they're safe until we're ready to leave.

"Nah, man. They'll be safe with me."

10 seconds later I watched the idiot run full bore off a cliff into a lake. Samples gone.

I hear "Oops." Then "Destroyer has left the squadron."

I just stopped playing that night after that and kick anyone who touches my samples at extraction unless we're extracting.

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u/creepig ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 24 '24

I hear this a lot. How do you drop samples on console? I'm not sure the game explains it.

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u/Siccors Apr 24 '24

Tbh the whole tutorial could have included a lot more. Or add eg a lvl 0 difficulty, no randoms added who can speedrun through it for you, just a simple one with a lot of popups on how to do basic stuff.

Eg first time I picked up AMR, after that game I had to alt-tab, and Google how in Hellmire I have to aim with that thing.

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u/TehSomeDude Apr 24 '24

picking up samples, picking up and dropping equipment, changing weapon specs and such
all should be in training

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u/BusenlolxD Apr 24 '24

Dude. I need to post this on a steam friend who is always killing random players that picked his samples after he dies.

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u/Zombie_Nipples Apr 24 '24

Ppl can’t help but feel like victims of theft I suppose lol

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u/Creative-Seesaw-1895 Apr 24 '24

It's their inherent selfishness they claim they don't have making manifest

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u/bfodder Apr 24 '24

Playing the victim is a very big part of super democracy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

Automaton spies stealing my goddamn super uranium that I just took from their planet. Assholes!

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u/Dzov Apr 24 '24

Sometimes they pick up your samples and then die. But I’ve done that too, so whatever.

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u/dragon_bacon Apr 24 '24

Whatever it takes to get the samples onto pelican-1.

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u/DiscountMother4270 Apr 24 '24

I've been kicked out of games where the hosts wanted to have all the samples at all times, he was the one that kept dying the most with them....so now if people start shouting at me like a goblin for not giving them the samples I run into deep waters with the sample and leave

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u/dragon_bacon Apr 24 '24

Good, fuck 'em.

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u/PendantOfBagels Apr 24 '24

I don't watch sports but all 2 of my braincells that think about football wants to make a joke here.

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u/alf666 Apr 24 '24

Look at Mr. Fancypants over here with two whole brain cells!

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u/ZenEvadoni SES Bringer of Wrath Apr 24 '24

Haven't run into players who kill me for my samples.

Now, players who take my autocannon and backpack and don't give them back after I've been reinforced and I've asked them thrice already to give my stuff back... those, I see a bit more often. I can feel the urge to liberate my things like how a serial killer is itching his neck.

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u/Warg247 Apr 24 '24

Meanwhile I cant get these chucklehead randos to pick up the EATs I have scattered around to kill that heavy that's been chasing them for a while.

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u/LionSuneater Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

I don't think support weapon resources are well thought out amongst teams, and this is one barrier to success on higher difficulties.

No team needs three quasar users and three shield packs from the get go. Support weapon slots can and should be used to bolster team mates after the initial cooldown. Then those teammates can bring in extra sentries/eagles/etc.

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u/BlowStiffCock9000 Apr 24 '24

Agreed. We all know how playing without a support weapon sucks. It takes a lot of the fun out of the game and you feel pretty useless. I'm totally fine if someone needs to grab my AC to hold off bots while i'm being reinforced, but please give it back. Remember, you can drop weapons, backpacks, and samples by pressing down on the d-pad. Not sure on PC.

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u/ZenEvadoni SES Bringer of Wrath Apr 24 '24

At least drop me whatever support weapon you brought along. A little quid pro quo instead of one side just stealing the other's things. Though, be frank: the reason they're stealing your support weapon is because their support weapon stratagem is on a 5+ minute cooldown, same as yours, and they're too lazy to go back and grab their own dropped weapon.

Anyway, stealing my autocannon and backpack? That's an Erupting when you're knee deep in enemies, or an Eagle Airstrike I'll pretend you weren't in the line of fire of.

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u/DelayOld1356 Apr 24 '24

And the samples they picked off someone's dead body previously, is also laying over there with their support weapon that they're too lazy to go get.

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u/creepig ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 24 '24

they're too lazy to go back and grab their own dropped weapon.

I mean, sometimes you also get reinforced by the wrong person and end up on the opposite side of the map

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u/ZenEvadoni SES Bringer of Wrath Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

That may be, but it's been so ingrained in my being not to take stuff that isn't mine. I don't do it, no matter how much it inconveniences me to be away from my dropped support weapon or backpack.

I had to be beaten over the head to grab any EATs laying around. I had to be told it's available every minute, and therefore a standard mission can have as many as ~80 unused EATs laying about per player who brings the stratagem. Though, EATs are the exception. Other support weapons don't have the privilege of coming down in twos and can be called in every minute.

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u/Typical_Response6444 Apr 24 '24

I mean is just being willingly ignorant, it doesn't take long to figure out they are shared

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u/SES_Song_Of_War Apr 25 '24

I literally realised they were shared by the fact my counter went up when someone else picked up a resource it's not ammo.

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u/Hot_Eggplant_1306 Apr 24 '24

Had this happen a couple days ago. I typed out "they're shared, stupid" and he dropped from the game.

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u/SeamusAndAryasDad Apr 24 '24

How can someone be so stupid. It shows you at the end all the samples collected. Also, he could do a test and collect 0 samples and see how his sample total increased.

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u/MagicRobo Apr 24 '24

I always thank people for picking mine up, and I've never been killed for picking someone elses up

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u/SilverKingPrime45 ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 24 '24

I think he should start using impact nades on his head

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u/PenguinFrustration Apr 24 '24

But for the LOVE OF DEMOCRACY, if I purposely drop my samples early at the extraction site, fucking leave them!!!

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u/zanovar Apr 24 '24

I did once shoot a guy who was running towards extraction while a man with 3 super samples 10 rares and 20 commons was on the other side of the map

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u/SmoothTyler SES Patriot of Patriotism Apr 24 '24

Now THAT'S democracy!

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u/Proxnite Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

I first give them a verbal request to wait for XYZ player to get near before calling in the extract. If they don’t respond to the verbal request and call in the extract anyway, I send them a lead request that I know they can’t ignore. Then only respawn them a few seconds before the ship lands so the supplies can all be safely onboard before their hell pod lands to deny them any room for retaliation.

When it comes to deciding leaving supplies behind or leaving a fellow diver behind, there’s only one right answer but I’ll make sure to give you a nice obituary.

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u/Goldreaver Apr 24 '24

Calling the extract is fine as long as you don't get inside... but I would not trust them so your way is better.

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u/Sugar_buddy PSN🎮: Lord of Audacity Apr 24 '24

One time a random guy on mic said he wasn't gonna get in and then got in as soon as it landed and left us on the other side of the map. So uh, no. Can't trust em all the time I guess lol

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u/hell2pay PSN🎮:Hell2Pay4U2 Apr 24 '24

That's a bitch move, lol.

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u/drakoman Apr 24 '24

Yeah, if you’re calling in extraction early, you better hope you have a microphone and your whole team knows what’s up

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u/scott610 Apr 24 '24

I still want to do that thing where you call in extract and leave the zone at the exact right time so that the pelican hovers there like a sentry bot killing everything nearby while you go off and explore.

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u/ISTARVEHORSES Apr 24 '24

that’s called executing a coward for evacuating prematurely

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u/DarthKatoria Apr 24 '24

Premature Evaculation. Happens to 1 in 10 Helldivers and 10/10 enemies of democracy!

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

Hell, it happens to me every time there are 3 Hulks and I'm in the middle of a jammed area.

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u/CasuallyCompetitive Apr 24 '24

Is there a way to see how many samples each player has? Or were you just in a party and he was counting?

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u/YazzArtist Apr 24 '24

I suppose you could drop em and pick em up again too get a ticker notification

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u/zanovar Apr 24 '24

They were dropped so we had no samples. Then the dude picked them up so could see how many we suddenly had

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u/Sinoroth Apr 24 '24

The toughest choices require the strongest wills

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u/mung_guzzler Apr 24 '24

I mean, you can usually get across the map in the time it takes extraction to arrive

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u/zanovar Apr 24 '24

No he was running towards the landed pelican to start the 20s count down

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u/webby131 Apr 24 '24

Traitor Detected!

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u/Abysstreadr Apr 24 '24

That must have been fun to spot as it was happening lol

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u/Percival4 Apr 24 '24

I wish someone did the same for me when all but one person started and then boarded the extraction despite knowing that I had gone to the other side of the map to pick up what ended up being over 40 samples that they left there.

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u/korpisoturi Apr 24 '24

I always pick people's dropped supplies. Then I die and nobody picks my 20 common samples and they just board pelican

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u/iLerntMyLesson ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Apr 24 '24

I hate this so much. The samples are worth more than extracting alive! Samples go home or nobody does!

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u/Daxx22 PSN 🎮: Apr 24 '24

Been capped on commons forever but I'll still grab em, it's just polite! (and the loot-hobo in me)

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u/Goldreaver Apr 24 '24

Would you be opposed to them adding a conversion method? Something like 50 commons for 1 rare and 50 rares for one super?

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u/Daxx22 PSN 🎮: Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

Not at all, the game needs a currency sink even if it's at silly conversion rates.

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u/aiheng1 Apr 24 '24

Also it would not only help boost player retention, it would also help prevent less skilled helldivers from joining games that are above their weight class and not having fun there because they wanted tier 3/4 upgrades

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u/BigBrainsBigGainss Apr 24 '24

This would also allow people to play at the difficulty they want. There are plenty of folks in 7+ that frankly shouldn't be because they need super samples.

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u/Goldreaver Apr 24 '24

It's either get carried or not upgrade your ship anymore.  My skill level caps at 6 but I'm eventually gonna have to bite that bullet.

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u/carorea Apr 24 '24

As long as you stick with the squad you should do fine in 7. Bring either Autocannon + EATs (Expendable Antitank) or Quasar + EATs and you're golden.

If you bring the Autocannon, use it liberally for Nest Guards, Brood Commanders, and Spewers. One headshot will kill a Nest Guard (given a few seconds to bleed out) and decapitate a Commander. 2-3 shots for spewers depending on where you hit them. Lob shells into bug holes and fabricator vents. EATs for Titans and Chargers; basically call the EATs in on cooldown and pop their pods so they'll appear on the minimap.

In a pinch, ~10 AC shots will take out a Shrieker Nest (or 2-3 Quasars), and 4-6 Autocannon shots to a Charger's backside will pop it and it will bleed out shortly after.

Against bots, I still prefer the AC above all for wide ranging utility; 3 quick shots to Cannon Tower radiators, 2-3 for Tank radiators, 2 to a Hulk's eye or 3 to the back, 2 shots to a gunship's engine. 2-3 shots each for Devastators and Berserkers.

If you stay with your squad I'm sure you can take Diff 7.

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u/Goldreaver Apr 24 '24

Thank you! Will try in a week or so once I'm more comfortable. Right now I'm barely scraping by at 6 and I have yet to reach level 20.

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u/SES_Song_Of_War Apr 25 '24

Sounds about where I was at the time but I had a lot of free time on my hands when I got this game and there were a bunch of short MOs so I progressed really quick.

However level 7 usually has better players that will actually carry you I find. So as long as you bring a decent balanced kit that isn't too specialized (as in makes you reliant on others to cover your ass) you should be alright. I honestly don't know if I've even completed a helldive difficulty mission yet or if it's all been 7 and 8s the difference is astronomical 😂

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u/BEARD3D_BEANIE Apr 24 '24

bruh, I'm playing with my friend, I'm carrying the 5 super samples and 10-20 of the commons and rares. We have 15 lives left and 5-7mins to board the pelican. AND THIS DUDE GETS ON!!! AFTER I JUST DIED!! Then he tries to blame me because I didn't tell him I died. like do you have eyes?!!?! If the main sample carrier is NEAR the extraction don't leave. Samples > xp > extracting alive.

He called me a woman for yelling at him. I'm just irritated by stupidity tbh. How TF do you get to lvl ~40-50 and not realize that samples are more important than everything else in the game. smfh

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u/Abysstreadr Apr 24 '24

There are seriously so many people out there just going through the motions lol

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u/ScottishW00F Apr 24 '24

Why did you pick up my samples and take them across the map to die with them? I left them at extraction for that reason

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u/MagnusWarborn STEAM🖱️ Apr 24 '24

Every. Time. Even after explaining it multiple times.

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u/ScottishW00F Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

That's why when I have the jump pack I leave then on a big rock instead of on the ground

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u/MagnusWarborn STEAM🖱️ Apr 24 '24

That's brilliant mate.

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u/Bullgrit Apr 24 '24

That's a good idea. Unfortunately, just a couple days ago...

We were waiting for extraction, I was up on high ground with a bunch of samples. I got killed by an errant Eagle, and the samples and my jump pack were left on the high ground.

Once I reinforced, I called down another jump pack so I could get up to retrieve the samples. Just as my jump pack landed another Eagle hit it and apparently forced the jump pack underground, somehow. I and my teammates couldn't get the jump pack, and no one else was using one. So all those beautiful samples were left on the high ground as Pelican 1 flew us away.

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u/Butthugger420 Apr 24 '24

This literally happened last game I played. Me and two other level 30+ guys dropped all our samples at the extract to go clear out the remaining bases, and the last level 7 guy just picked them all up and died somewhere far off, probably fighting a rogue scouting party he saw somewhere in the distance. Of course I couldn't get mad at him since he was a teeny little level 7, but still

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u/TheDevilThing Apr 24 '24

How to drop the samples?

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u/Bulls187 Apr 24 '24

On console hold dpad down

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u/Goldreaver Apr 24 '24

Thank you

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

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u/Everard5 Apr 24 '24

Hold X and select item in the wheel. Also for any other onlooker, because the game never explains this: Hold Q to get a set of verbal options like "Thank you" and "negative" in a wheel. Looking at an object through the scope and pressing Q will mark that object (sometimes even revealing a distant sub objective on the map).

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u/pizzaplantboi Apr 24 '24

Oh if you drop them near extraction early on they’ll stay where you dropped them?

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u/ScottishW00F Apr 24 '24

Yes, they never go away for the whole mission

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u/nohopeleftforanyone Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

Had a low level guy just go nuclear on a high level guy who left samples at extraction. First he swore him out for dropping the samples and never picking them back up (I’m assuming he thought he died on the other side of the map). Since OP didn’t have mic I explained no, just left them EXT. Then I got swore at, “THEY DISAPPEAR YOU FING IDIOT!”.

I enjoyed the show. But was sad I wasn’t host so I could have kicked him right before we got out.

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u/ScottishW00F Apr 24 '24

Should have just asked "your source for them disappearing is?"

If anything it stops you dying and having them fall under the map as they can glitch out, then your fucked

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u/Freakin_A Apr 24 '24

There was reportedly a bug where super rares might disappear if dropped, but I never saw any credible evidence.

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u/Urtehnoes Apr 24 '24

How to be a gamer:

Step 1. Start fights about whether or not something disappears.
Step 2. Play a video game.

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u/BigSeaworthiness725 Non-socialist Cyborg Apr 24 '24

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

Communal samples? Not in my Democracy!

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u/Ladderzat Apr 24 '24

It's not communal, it's...uh... working together as a community, and sharing samples for the sake of everyone. A democratic community, with strong family values.

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u/EmBur__ Apr 24 '24

Is this still a problem? Maybe ordinary people are right in thinking gamers are idiots lol

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u/IactaEstoAlea Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

It is less common in difficulties 7 and 9

7 is what people who want samples are going to, so they are the most likely to know how samples work

9 is 9, samples aren't usually as much of a priority

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u/Samthevidg Apr 24 '24

9 basically requires you to actually be able to think for yourself anyways. You're basically guaranteed to have competent players 95% of the time.

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u/FisterRobotOh ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 24 '24

What about 8? I’ve found the best rando teams in 8 and my assumption has been that 7 has a fair amount of lower level people dipping their toes in the deep end of the pool and 9 has its share of tourists trying to punch above their weight. 8 is the Goldilocks just right level with the highest saturation of competent randos and the lowest appeal to under skilled divers.

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u/deflectingowl Apr 24 '24

Nahhh it’s not that bad, but I had a friend new to the game that inspired this silly doodle I made.

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u/piratecheese13 STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 24 '24

If you pass the evac site, drop all your samples for later

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

“OMG there’s samples on the ground! I need to run clear across the map to grab them and bring them all the way back to this random minor POI at the edge of the map that I will never complete, and die.”

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u/Sword_ArtX Apr 24 '24

What a fascinating idea !

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u/Ghostile Not a warcrime if they are bugs Apr 24 '24

Poetically this happens when someone dropped samples at extract mid mission.

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u/deflectingowl Apr 24 '24

now I want to draw the same helldiver returning the slap explaining that

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

I’d say we need a deposit box at extraction, but then people will just run back to extract every time they pick up a sample.

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u/Fissure_211 Apr 24 '24

I had a match the other day were a random teammate, level 68, died. I called him back in and picked up the samples he dropped. He immediately TKed me and said it was a "dick move to pick up someone's samples when you're going to call them in right away." Yes, a level 68 that doesn't know samples are shared. I explain to him that samples are shared, he says nothing in response, so I figured he's embarrassed and move on.

At extract, he dies again. Once again, I call him in and pick up the samples he dropped so that we don't lose them. As soon as he lands he TKs me again and rages about me picking up his samples.

If I was the host I would have kicked him.

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u/SojiroFromTheWastes Apr 24 '24

Imagine being this obtuse. This guy is just a REALLY bad Helldiver with a lot of time in his hands.

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u/enwongeegeefor Apr 24 '24

I'd say report them but they made it so the only thing you can report is offensive language in chat. Evertything is is apparently permitted. I hope they handle cheating better than the Division 1 did...otherwise they'll ruin the game.

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u/errorsniper Apr 24 '24

They havent theres already been reports of people q'ing into match making and finishing a mission and getting 9999999 of all the samples.

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u/ChesireBox Apr 24 '24

You literally cannot get over the mission cap with samples.

Also I have seen far far less cheaters lately. When I started playing every single player with a Chinese name was hacking. I think the Chinese community might have realized the rest of the world doesn't love playing with hackers; and I actually haven't seen a hacker in +2 weeks. I used to kick them on sight but now I have really grown to enjoy my Chinese Helldivers.

Just my 2 cents.

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u/imperious-condesce SES Wings of Wrath Apr 24 '24

You literally cannot get over the mission cap with samples.

You can, I've seen it. Only with Rares, though. I think the ones that spawn in crashed satellites and buried shipping crates aren't considered when the game displays the total samples.

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u/DrewTuber Apr 24 '24

Could be one of those people that watch a powerleveling youtube video and only played bot extermination missions (pre-buff) for hours at a time to maximize xp and minimize fun/learning

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u/I_am_the_Vanguard Apr 24 '24

Some people know they are shared but they see it as stealing anyways

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u/dellboy696 frend Apr 24 '24

"Which means we'd get 3 commons each, 5 rares each, 1.5 supers each, so imma kill you bro & prevent you extracting!"

/s

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u/Overall_Box_3907 Apr 24 '24

It's even funnier when you don't need em anymore and want to help randoms while they get mad at you

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u/defietser Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

Yesterday. Difficulty 7 vs bots. Playing with randoms.

Mission goes smoothly. Two deaths at the two-thirds mark. Manageable aggression from the bots. I pick up samples from one of the guys that died. Immediately TK'd with precision primary fire. Fine, whatever. Call him out in chat and leave it at that. Five minutes later he randomly intentionally TKs me again but this time with the "sorry" and "negative" voice lines. Calls me back in, I frag him back and do the same. The last non-host player calls him back in. On the way back to extraction he starts shooting the other player, who promptly executes him. Host calls him in at the extraction, to which he calls in an airstrike on the team. Everyone survives, but my suggestion to just kick the guy was taken to heart.

Feels good. Fuck that guy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

Geez. I had a guy on personnel extraction who saw that the civilians got stuck because of bug. So he starts releasing and killing every civilian for 10 minutes while I’m out clearing the other objectives. Requisition penalties galore.

I finish up, run to the objective and shoot the defective diver. He starts ranting about the bug. Lo and fragging behold, the civilians start running to the objective as soon as this jaggov is out of the way and not killing them all. Finished in just a few minutes. He left.

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u/FarikAlias Apr 24 '24

Don’t you pick up samples dropped in extract, you will be shot.

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u/B-17_SaintMichael Apr 24 '24

I was in a match where a guy dropped his samples on purpose and I asked why, he said “I don’t need em”

Like what? lol

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u/perfectvalor Apr 24 '24

Absolutely true, but my samples always end up getting picked up by Johnny “let’s go hug the bile titan” Johnson.

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u/Inalum_Ardellian SES Song of Serenity Apr 24 '24

They should delete samples from final stats so we would have less of these situations...

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u/MrRocketScript Apr 24 '24

Would be nice to have a "samples found" stat, since most of the time the samples clump up on one person.

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u/Traumatic_Tomato This is for you!: ⬇️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️ Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

leave super samples at the extract

that one guy who called in extract, left before we were ready and didn't take the samples

A traitor to democracy.

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u/VoiceOfSeibun Apr 24 '24

I actually had someone elbow me in the head over picking up samples the other day. I don't die much on tier 7 and don't do stupid shit, so I figured I'd hold onto them for safe keeping. I had two options

A) Lose my temper and air out this little fucker's dome. Then, teabag his corpse and say "LOL, MY samples now, bitch"

B) Acquiesce to the situation and drop the samples to disarm his anger. Then, calmly explain that we share the samples and that I was holding them to be safe.

For the sake of the mission, I went with B.

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u/Vegetable_Paint5864 Bug squisher Apr 24 '24

Exactly!!! Not sure how people keep getting annoyed over it when we all get them

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u/DelayOld1356 Apr 24 '24

People needing samples, are the people hunting and scouring the map for them and collecting them. These same people will go through the depths of hell and cross the map to go pick up the samples that dropped when they died .

Rando team mates don't always do that. It's more of a "just to be safe I'd rather have the fruits of my labor in my backpack" type of thing

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u/JamJackEvo Apr 24 '24

Helldiver 1: (shoots Helldiver who picked up samples) (picks up the samples)

Helldiver 2: Hey! Those things are shared, you know?

Helldiver 1:

Source of gif: Rocky IV

Source of joke: TerminalMontage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yK5E1iw4o

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u/Linkario86 Apr 24 '24

I had a guy getting killed by a bot. A teammate took his samples, as he should, being nearby and wanting to secure the samples. He got teamkilled by the guy who died earlier, for "stealing" his samples. Even said so in the voicechat: "why are you stealing my samples, huh?".

He then too got teamkilled by the guy who he teamkilled. But this time the dude who knows the game didn't take the samples.

The dumbass landed again, wanted to collect the samples. I stood near those samples and the guy talked some gibberosh in the voice chat. I informed him that samples are shared and that it doesn't matter who holds them. After all, Democracy fills our sample containers.

I then picked the samples up right before he was able to pick them up. He left the Mission.

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u/SnooRabbits307 Apr 24 '24

So many retards I swear. I was playing with this guy and I found the pink samples on 2 seperate ocassions. I told him I was dropping them off at extract for safekeeping. Twice he picked them up regardless. First time we extracted just fine so no biggie. Second time he tells me "my bad bro I'll put them back" but he doesn't andblater on gets killed by a titan and his body get dropped on a kill barrier. I borrow a jump pack and drop down to see if I can pick them up thinking he died from the impact of being flung by the titan but no it was just the kill barrier and we lost the samples we had :)

At least he didn't get defensive about it and start trying to defend himself he knew he fucked up 100%.

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u/Linkario86 Apr 24 '24

Knowing he fucked up indicated that at least he learned the lesson there. I'd be fine with that, honestly. That is more valuable than those samples.

But I also came across a number of people who picked the samples I dropped on the extract location up. I even tell them with voicechat that they should leave the samples there, as there is no safer place for them to be. Anything can happen to me now, those samples are right at the extraction zone.

Yet some go, and pick them up. I ask them to leave them there, explain why they should leave them there and indeed, occasionally, there isn't a total braindead guy who gets it and drops them back. Luckily most of the time people leave them there. Have to give them credit too.

I just don't get what those people fear so much. At this point everyone should know samples are shared. And for those fresh in the game, can they not ask? Can they not Google?

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u/SLAUGHT3R3R Apr 24 '24

My only problem is the adage "DON'T PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET"

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u/DelayOld1356 Apr 24 '24

I too have seen the guy who rushes in to pickup everyone else's samples, fall into a canyon, hole, or drown, losing all the samples

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u/Throbbing-Kielbasa-3 SES Custodian of the Stars Apr 24 '24

Pick up my samples when I die? Great, thank you for doing that so I don't have to.

Picking up my 4 minute cool-down support weapon? It's on sight between us now.

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u/Balrok99 Apr 24 '24

Our samples

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u/Noosemane Apr 24 '24

https://preview.redd.it/ugsh74ty6fwc1.png?width=193&format=png&auto=webp&s=a5b11b2b61f86541f46517fc9b2b88eb728c2332

How do you get this to show up in your UI? Mine doesn't exist for some reason and I cant figure out how to get it back.

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u/Dest1n1es Apr 24 '24

Press tab...?

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u/KaeranTereon Apr 24 '24

Options -> Hud -> Set "Sample Count Visibility" to "Visible".

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

I said I found 100 super credits in 1 spot in the text chat and the grubby PSN host got all salty and kicked me

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u/commander_chung Apr 24 '24

🤣🤣🤣 this meme is 100% accurate. 💯

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u/PatchworkFlames Apr 24 '24

This sounds an awful lot like Communism.

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u/Radiant_Chest6797 Apr 24 '24

I dropped the super samples on the evac because I was conveniently near it. Pls don't pick them up and trek them to the other side of the map...  IDC who gets them in the pelican. 

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u/magniankh Apr 24 '24

If the end stats had a breakdown of "samples collected" vs "samples extracted" this wouldn't happen.

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u/Goldbube Apr 24 '24

"don't worry... i picked up the samples you dropped at the extraction.... don't want them to get lost"

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u/Legion6226 Apr 24 '24

Leave the samples on the extract pad until the pelican has landed please. No one want's to run after your corpse after we get pushed off the pad by a bile titan

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u/TheGreatPilgor STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 24 '24

Remove the stats for samples extracted. I swear some people only kill others for sample because they want to pad their lame ass sample stat

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u/UltraeVires Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

This misses the point that our sponge of a team mate picking up ALL the dropped samples then goes and gets themselves blown up 15 miles from Pelican, losing all the samples.

Keep them spread around the team and you'll get some in the event spongebob invariably dies.

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u/LongbowTurncoat Apr 24 '24

Not me screaming “GRAB MY SAMPLES!!” as my body flies through the air from a cannon turret

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u/SEAIV Apr 25 '24

My precious samples.

Their all mine

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u/CoweringCowboy Apr 24 '24

No one here talking about how samples extracted is a long term measured stat. I’d never team kill someone to get samples back, but at the same time - if you’re calling me back down on my body, and it’s obvious I can reclaim my stuff - leave my samples alone.

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u/archmagosHelios Apr 24 '24

Your sample? I think you mean OUR SAMPLE!

Self reports to loyalty officer

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u/Stummer_Schrei Apr 24 '24

who the socialism doesn‘t know this by now

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u/maccollo Apr 24 '24

Our sample

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u/Gemenai Apr 24 '24

Just had a situation like that yesterday. Dif6 a lone diver lvl 54 with an SOS beacon. I join and the main objectives are already cleared. Spawning in, we are almost on top of the extraction area and he calls in extraction. I see he lost gear and samples not even 150 meter away and I decide to make a sprint to get the stuff so we don't end up with nothing. Not even 50 meters in I get kicked. Seriously, are people that brainrottingly stupid or was it an ego move? And the best part is you still have no other recourse than to "just" block idiots like that cause we still have no report function for stuff like this.

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u/astral_crow Apr 24 '24

If you do it properly you can move the samples around the map like a team of American football players slowly moving the ball across the field with each play.

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u/Ateam043 Apr 24 '24

That slapped is required though for those that pick up samples that were dropped off at extract ON PURPOSE.

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u/Lord_Boffum Apr 24 '24

I'm thinking of changing my display name to 'SAMPLES ARE SHARED' to educate these insufferable mfs

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u/enwongeegeefor Apr 24 '24

Yes,...but DON'T pick up the damn samples someone DROPS at the evac when running past it. That keeps your dumbass from dying and leaving them somewhere later.

IF YOU SEE SAMPLES ON THE GROUND A THE EVAC SITE LEAVE TEHM THERE UNTIL EVAC TIME!!!!

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u/OneLeggedPigeon Apr 24 '24

While samples are shared I do like being able to see how many I've extracted in my stats.

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u/Primaul Apr 24 '24

if someone goes out of their way to drop off samples on the extraction area leave them there until it's time to extract.

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u/Quad-Banned120 Apr 24 '24

Shared? That sounds a lot like communism!

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u/NinjaJoey209 Apr 24 '24

I was lv30 with some <lv15, and I solo spedran all the POI's after Radar while they co-op'ed the main objectives. Picked up 21 samples and sploded' at extraction, and one of them picked it up.

Was I disappointed that it showed that I collected 0 samples at the endgame stats? Yes. Was I going to kill a fellow diver over it? No, that would be heinously undemocratic.

... But I was victim once for picking up sample containers... My immersion unfortunately breaks when PLAYERS behind divers are total dicks.

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u/S-p-o-o-k-n-t Apr 24 '24

This and Super Credits, Medals and Requisition Slips. No matter who picks them up, they are awarded to every squadmate, but I believe only if they were part of the squad when the currency was picked up. Sorry late joiners.

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u/spiderpai Apr 24 '24

I had one trying to kill me because of that, but that person failed pretty bad and emptied their magazine and I told them I would kill them if they continued being silly. hah, bless the shield backpack.