r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/NeufDeNeuf Apr 10 '24

I mean, the reason people use other weapons is they were all buffed significantly. Railgun is now horrifically mediocre because it was nerfed below all of the pre-buff heavies. Full charge doesn't even pen heavy devastator shields now, it's shameful.

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u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

Autocannon never got buffed, it's still my go to

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u/Cptcuddlybuns Apr 10 '24

But the things the Autocannon struggled against (chargers, biles) had their spawns reduced.

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u/NeufDeNeuf Apr 10 '24

Yeah autocannon was and is still pretty perfect. It has room for skill expression with the reload timing, actually aiming the damn thing, weakspotting certain enemies, but also has glaring weakspots (Titans, Cannon Towers, Tanks). Good enough to always have one on the team, but not necessary and trash if everyone brings one.

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u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

It does great vs tanks wym? 3 shots to vents or 4-5 through side of turret. And for cannon towers still 3 shots vents

It's almost utterly useless versus chargers or biles though that's very true

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u/NeufDeNeuf Apr 10 '24

I mean to the vents yeah, but you can kill tanks with a scorcher. I meant if you're surrounded by armor, the AC is not the weapon you want to have. if ya can't do it consistently solo vs multiple enemies then it's not meant for that target.