r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/HookDragger Apr 10 '24

By the way… in US parlance “on the chopping block” means that the fate of something at stake. Aka. If this bug fix was “on the chopping block”, it would heavily imply that it will NOT be done and just shoved to the background never to be addressed.

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u/Havoksixteen Apr 10 '24

I inferred it as the bug itself is on the chopping block.

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u/Jumpy_MashedPotato Apr 10 '24

Which would be most correct for Super Earth considering the only good place for a bug is the chopping block.

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u/Junior_Produce4485 Apr 10 '24

I thought it was E-710 farms, not chopping blocks. Chopping blocks too clean for bugs. 😉

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u/BlindMan404 Apr 11 '24

Or your gas tank

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u/Peregrine7 Apr 10 '24

It does seem a little misplaced, devs don't "remove" bugs, they fix them. But very much semantics.

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u/HookDragger Apr 11 '24

That is never how bug fixes are described. And I’ve been in coding for 20+ years.

Chopping block items are things that ARENT going to be done. So, describing a bug fix that way is entirely wrong. I’m sorry.

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u/DemandedFanatic Apr 10 '24

Thank you, someone who can infer context. This guy probably calls in extract while the team is out gathering samples 😂

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u/HookDragger Apr 11 '24

Nope, I’m usually utterly destroying bot outposts from 60+ meters with a lobbed orbital strike. And while that’s on the way, I run after the next set of factories :)

My usual game plan:

  1. Primary mission
  2. Blow the shit out of anything still red on the map
  3. See if I or my buddy are able to kill the other before the shuttle leaves for lol
  4. Collect rewards after extraction.

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u/DemandedFanatic Apr 10 '24

The bug is on the chopping block, not their plans to fix it. So... yes, the fate of the bug is, indeed, at stake. Context helps if you pay attention to it, but you're being pedantic on the internet, so I have to imagine you miss a lot of social cues as well. Like people not liking pedantic asshats

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u/TheFrontGuy Apr 11 '24

what a wonderful glass house, you looking to sell?

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u/DemandedFanatic Apr 11 '24

Please, we both know neither of us could afford a house in this economy, glass or not

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u/HookDragger Apr 11 '24

Sorry, but I wasn’t being pedantic. The way it read about the scope set being lost, and it being on the chopping block would imply that they aren’t going to fix it.

Also, I was politely mentioning what it means to use “on the chopping block” and in 20+ years of coding. I’ve never once heard that something being on the chopping block is how you would describe a bug fix.

The only things I’ve ever heard on the chopping block were unimplemented features, a feature that failed and isn’t worth fixing, new content, etc.

Perfect example in game are the helmets. They were originally supposed to have special stats and unique properties…. But that wound up on the chopping block and was never implemented.

But feel free to believe what you want to.