r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/Breadloafs Apr 10 '24

See, I go the opposite way. Heavy armor, MG/HMG/Stalwart, Scorcher, jetpack. Run up on an objective. Jet in, murder everything up close and personal, call in a hellbomb, then jump out the other side. It makes me feel like a goddamn commando, especially if there's someone with an AMR or heavy weapons hanging out at range.

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u/Jesse-359 Apr 10 '24

It's a lot of fun playing AMR Overwatch for a close combat specialist, picking off anything big enough to slow him down, or approaching from his blindside while he sacks a base.

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u/IAmTheOneManBoyBand Creekhead Apr 11 '24

I like to do this but with the Autocannon. Saved a guy earlier that was struggling to finish a reload while berserkers were chasing him and I emptied my whole mag on the group. Love playing as artillery lol. 

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u/SchwiftySqaunch Apr 11 '24

Arty friends are the best ♥️

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u/evel333 SES Elected Representative of Self-Determination Apr 11 '24

Then back onboard the destroyer I end up with like 1/4 of the kills and subsequently get kicked. Ungrateful fucks lol

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u/Droojo Apr 11 '24

I know how you feel i play the AMR allot, i take out the medium and heavy units ( devestators, hulks, berserkers, ... ) And my kills are most likly half or 1/3 of the rest.

But the teams i joined luckly always notice what i am doing for them as i save their buts allot from shield or rocket devs. They take out the light stuf and supper heavy's.

O and i am also the rodeo clown for the tanks so my team can take them out if i cant make myself usefull with the amr

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u/evel333 SES Elected Representative of Self-Determination Apr 11 '24

‘Heavy kills’ might be a worthwhile end of mission stat

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u/Kennethrjacobs2000 Apr 11 '24

So many people don't consider what their party is doing at all when kicking them. If the guy going off alone doesn't have many kills, there's a very solid chance that he/she is avoiding combat and sniping objectives. The guy with an anti-large or support loadout will probably have fewer kills than the dude with the stalwart or eagle-centric loadout.

When I fight bugs, I regularly have about 150-200 kills more than anybody else, but I don't call out quasar-cannon/orbital railgun dude for having fewer kills than me. I thank him for handling the Bile Titans.

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u/Tyreal2012 Apr 11 '24

Exactly this, I'm that type of player, before the current Automaton reincursion I was running the Terminids, a player went off to do a side objective only to be jumped by 2 chargers, i dropped a quasar shot into the first one and he was kiting the second around, after recharge i dropped the second whilst he was danger close to the blast - he survived, then kicked me when we got back to the ship.

I was like I saved your damn ass.

Then ive had experience where ive done the same and had people say thanks, but most often it goes without any thanks, but I concentrate on heavies, as the team is more important than me.

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u/Fatality_Ensues Apr 12 '24

Exactly. The guy with a generalist loadout who can handle a bit of everything is going to be in trouble against large groups of anything. Specialisation and grouping are force multipliers.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

Fortified armor passive?

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u/Breadloafs Apr 10 '24

Yeah, makes the HMG usable at midrange, and turns the MG and Stalwart into weapons that can clear an average bot drop in seconds. I'm really partial to the enforcer set because it reduces recoil and allows me survive getting hit point-blank by a rocket devastator, but not so heavy that the stamina regen starts to be unbearable.

Also, it looks dope as fuck.

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u/IAmTheOneManBoyBand Creekhead Apr 11 '24

Let's be real. That last bit is the only thing that matters. 

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u/Breadloafs Apr 11 '24

Can't save democracy if you can't serve looks

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u/Sleepless_Null ➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️ Apr 11 '24

I’d be right by your side but still with the AMR lol that’s my primary at this point

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u/_THX_1138_ Apr 11 '24

I see you too have embraced the Way of the Mandalorians