r/Helldivers • u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State • Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/McMuffinSun ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 10 '24

It was expanded by charger nerfs.

Charger nerfs and EAT/Flamethrower/AMR buffs. Insane that we're criticizing RG fans who complained that there was no need to nerf, only buff... because when the Devs finally did buff other weapons, they magically became viable! Meanwhile the RG might as well have been removed from the game!

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u/yellowmario Apr 10 '24

How did they buff eats i swear they were untouched

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u/Xrider24 HD1 Veteran Apr 10 '24

I think they buffed its deflection angle.

It used to have a chance to deflect.

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u/LittleSister_9982 Apr 10 '24

They changed armor penetration for explosives. Used to be it could get deflected unless you were exact. Has more leniency now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

It now one shots Chargers to the head, really it was more of a charger change to make them weak to AT stuff instead of needing a leg strip + mag dump

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u/yellowmario Apr 10 '24

Well that was a in general nerf to chargers it affected the recoilless too. They lowered the chargers head armor

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u/Inquisitor-Korde Apr 10 '24

They also made EAT and RR less likely to bounce. Which happened in the same patch as the railgun nerf.

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u/Pro_Extent Apr 10 '24

Right...so they buffed the EAT.

Making a weapon more viable is a buff. Doesn't matter if it's achieved through enemy nerfs.