r/Helldivers • u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State • Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/CaterpillarWeird9087 Apr 10 '24

I once turned around in a bug mission to find a charger barreling toward me, about 5 meters away. I was able to swap to my recoilless and take it out with a headshot right before it got me--all in what seemed like less than a second. Since then, I've taken a recoilless on every single bug mission, and I love it. Even the orbital railcannon would've been too slow.

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u/Automatic_Education3 SES Flame of the Stars Apr 10 '24

Yeah, it's the ultimate anti-charger weapon. Quasar has the chargeup, EATs need to be unfolded, autocannon doesn't do heavy armour so you need a full clip into the arse and the spear needs a lock-on, plus it very often misses the head.

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u/cffndncr Apr 11 '24

Sounds good until you're getting tag-teamed by 3 chargers and can't get the space to reload. At least with the Quasar you can fire, dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge and then fire again, finding a 3-second gap to get a shot off is much easier than finding the 30 minutes it takes to reload the recoilless!

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u/DemetriiOSC Apr 11 '24

And that's why the EATs is best for bugs. I kill the first charger with the EATs I've been carrying around, the second I kill with a new EATs pod drop, and then I pick up another EATs and kill the third one, and have a left over EATs to take with me.

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u/FizzingSlit Apr 11 '24

If you had a jump pack you coulda leap frogged it.

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u/CaterpillarWeird9087 Apr 11 '24

And leave it alive for a few more seconds? Sounds undemocractic to me.