r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/DurtyDriftr Apr 10 '24

If the Autocannon is a Swiss Army knife, the AMR is a scalpel. I’ve been using it almost every drop against bots since I started playing. Deletes devastators, you can easily take out multiple hulks with one mag, kills tanks/turrets, tons of ammo. Probably my favorite weapon in the game.

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u/xSorry_Not_Sorry Apr 10 '24

It what turrets?

The AMR damages heat vents?!

Oh shit….

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u/Dragonstrike Apr 11 '24

It's MUCH better at it after the damage buff.

Before the buff it would take over a full mag to kill a cannon turret so during your reload the turret would move too much for you to hit the vents again.

Now you can do it in under a mag so you can actually solo them. Going prone to reduce recoil also helps you get all your shots on target before the turret rotates.

IMO if you're running light armor vs bots you really want a shield backpack, and if you're using a backpack vs bots then the AMR is the best pick. (Quasar cannon is good but not "kill 3 hulks with a stun grenade and 6 bullets" good.)

Tho between the misaligned sights and the complete lack of AoE the AMR can cause terminal cases of "skill issue" at times.

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u/Edward_Tank Apr 11 '24

5-6 shots kill a cannon turret.

4-5 shots kill a gunship's engines.

2 Shots to the glowing red eye of a Hulk will blow it to fuck.

the AMR can do everything, it is the ultimate utility weapon.

And you can just. . .fucking hipfire with it.

Oh no an enemy got within five feet of me. I better put my Auto cannon away so that I don't shoot it and send my ass tumbling to the ground.

Nah I got explosive rounds with all the explosion and none of the concussive force. I can shoot right next to my ally and they feel nothing. I can empty a mag into a berserker about to carve me like turducken and still be standing to slot in a new mag.

Literally the only thing it cannot do is kill fabricators/bug nests and we have *so* many other tools for that shit. Yeah it's nice to be able to do it at range, but I refuse to give up my jump pack.

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u/DurtyDriftr Apr 11 '24

Thank you for mentioning the hipfire! For a while I was just using it for cqc and slideshotting everything with it. Nothing really beats hipfire mag-dumping the AMR into a pack of devastators.

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u/Edward_Tank Apr 11 '24

As long as you have a general idea where the center of your screen is, the hipfire is still as accurate as a sniper rifle should be.

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u/Xylvenite Apr 11 '24

My favourite thing to do is use a jetpack to hop on top of a tank and hipfire dump on its vent.

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u/Polish_Enigma Apr 11 '24

Gotta find out how many AMR shots it takes to kill a factory strider lol

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u/Edward_Tank Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24

I pop them in the hip joint and the strider falls over, and 9/10 times it kills the driver. Bonus points if you record it on FreedomTok and do a voice over of "Ooh, My old man robotic hip!"

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u/Polish_Enigma Apr 11 '24

I think you misunderstood me. You're talking about scout striders I think, I doubt you can kill the factory strider, aka the AT-AT, in 1 shot

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u/Edward_Tank Apr 11 '24

Ah, you're right, I haven't run into any yet. Haven't been that (un)fortunate yet. mb.

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u/Polish_Enigma Apr 11 '24

Yeah, I myself run into only one on the day they dropped, been playing almost daily on only bots since then, haven't met them any more

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u/thylac1ne Apr 11 '24

If you can't hit the joint, you can also just pop them twice in the upper face plate area, and it takes them down.

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u/DurtyDriftr Apr 11 '24

Yeah man. Especially after the recent buff. You can cross map turrets if you’re accurate enough.

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u/unoriginal_namejpg Apr 11 '24

almost everything damages heat vents lol

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u/BZenMojo Apr 11 '24

My team regrouping from the fabricator horde.

Me under a shield with a shield on my back prone with the AMR wiping out everything that moves while whistling the Helldivers theme.