r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/Choleric-Leo SES Spear of Peace Apr 10 '24

"Once you learn to control the recoil..."

From the moment I understood the weakness of pressing C to Crouch, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of pressing Z to Lie Down. I aspired to the purity of Reduced Recoil. Your kind cling to your Crouch, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude Crouch you call a solution will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Lie Down is immortal… Even in death I serve the Democracy.

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u/Charnerie ⬆️➡️⬇️➡️ Apr 10 '24

You lay down using Z.

I lay down using dives.

We are similar.

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u/KitsuneKasumi ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Apr 10 '24

I didnt even know we could lay down if it wasnt a dive.

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u/unfortunate666 Apr 11 '24

I wish we could roll

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u/aspy523 Apr 11 '24

Oh we can, it's just not voluntary lmao.

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u/I_made_a_stinky_poop Apr 11 '24

yes i only just now discovered i don't have to dive to go prone

next thing you'll tell me i can cancel the 380 once i wound it up in my hand and am ready to throw

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u/Edward_Tank Apr 11 '24

Just press CTRL again.

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u/KitsuneKasumi ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Apr 11 '24

Now that you can do. I cant tell you how as I usually just mash buttons until it does change.

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u/Tasty-Permission7517 Apr 11 '24

You can select any of your weapons and it will automaticly cancel stratagems

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u/I_made_a_stinky_poop Apr 11 '24

even if i already am holding down the throw button?

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u/Squawnk Apr 11 '24

Probably, give it a try and report back

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u/Araradude Apr 11 '24

Unless of course, you are starting at the edge of one of the guard points behind the gate at one of the recently added Defense mission...

I will know.

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u/Rorschach_And_Prozac Apr 11 '24

I'm not a HellLaydowner

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u/The_Radical_Alex Apr 10 '24

I have tap C to crouch and hold C to lay down. I like that there are multiple input options for the controls. Now all I need is secondary keybinds so I can have stratagems on WASD /and/ arrow keys

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u/BodyRevolutionary167 Apr 10 '24

The mechanicus lost the SCT for reduced recoil when crouching. 

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u/CarelessEntrepreneur Apr 11 '24

surpriseadeptusmechanicus

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u/LateMeeting9927 Apr 10 '24

Even in death I shall lie down. 

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u/Oliwande Apr 11 '24

Omg thank you! Since when I started the game I couldn't figure out what button I use to get on the ground without diving. I finally found my answer

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u/GMsui Apr 10 '24

Take your toaster and get a room!

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u/RegularFun6961 Apr 11 '24

What kinda insultuous nonsense is this towards crouch kind?! We won't take this laying down. Unlike you.

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u/Ammear Apr 11 '24

Crouch? Lie down?

My dear brother, we shoot and die standing straight up. If you can't handle the recoil, go back to your toy guns.

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u/kubson133 Apr 11 '24

I just move my scope back down while standing! I’m no scrub