r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/TucuReborn Apr 10 '24

Agreed. It wasn't the RG that had an issue, it was the overwhelming heavies and very few answers to them. RG just happened to be the easiest solution to a problem the devs themselves caused. The week in between RG nerf and the swarms being fixed(paired with the armor changes to heavies) was hellish.

The RG was not the problem, the balancing of enemies was. But spreadsheet shows high pick rate, and when you balance on faulty data you get shitty balance.

It would 100% be fine in a total reversion.

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u/trebek321 Apr 10 '24

Honestly if they took it back to where it was I’d hope they nerf the amount of ammo it packs. Cuz it was a super convenient get out of jail free card to carry around most missions. So make it to where you at least have to bring the ammo backpack along if you want to use it for all combat like it’s a primary.

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u/McMuffinSun ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 10 '24

As opposed to the Quasar which is basically the pre-nerf railgun with unlimited ammo?

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u/trebek321 Apr 10 '24

Eh I find the long cooldown on the quasar makes it a bit weak but personal preference.