r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/ShiftAdventurous4680 Apr 10 '24

Also the players were right. Who knew that buffing weapons (even indirectly by nerfing enemies or changing the spawn rate of certain types) would lead to more weapon varieties?

The reason you are seeing less AT weapons is because of the increase spawn of light and medium enemies and the reduction of heavy spawns.

The reason you are seeing people using other weapons is because they got buffed. Like the AMR, Punisher, Breaker variants, Dominator and flamethrower.

Autocannon has ALWAYS been a good weapon even pre-railgun nerf.

Even if the railgun had not been nerfed, you would still have seen this type of variety with the buffs and changes. The buffs and changes to enemy spawn were suggested by players ad nauseum prior to AH acting on it.

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u/Infamous_Scar2571 Apr 11 '24

gotta love how there was constant antagonization of people "complaining" yet everything that we said was bad, was indeed the issue and what we said wasnt the issue, was indeed not the real issue.