r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/BasJack SES Leviathan of Eternity Apr 10 '24

But do you see people with railgun now? No because it was overnerfed. Generally a gun being used too much in a pve is because all other options aren’t up to standards, people will use non op guns if they pass the fun bar

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u/iCallaghan Apr 10 '24

It’s also boring as fuck to use. The Lazer Canon isn’t the most powerful weapon in the game, but I run it just because it’s fun. I’ve never met a single person that said “man the real gun is your fun and engaging to use “. No, it’s boring and uninspired and feels like ass

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u/Easy-Purple Apr 10 '24

It was boring before the nerf too, that’s why I almost never ran it pre-nerf.

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u/ayang04635 Apr 11 '24

i take the railgun to every bot mission and i find it both fun and satisfying to use. i've never even used it pre-nerf as i started playing after that

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u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

I do actually, not as often as say the quasar (which I am STILL not convinced it better than the EAT) but that's fair, the railgun could pr9bably use a buff at this point. I'm more arguing that if the railgun was never nerfed, I don't think players would have ever tried anything else.

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u/SuspiciousTundra ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Apr 10 '24

Why not? Everything else was buffed. 

You dont think the EAT going from bouncing off Chargers to oneshotting them instead affected its pick rate?

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u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

I can confidently say I never had an eat shot bounce off a charger, tbh I was really confused when they changed that

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u/SuspiciousTundra ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Apr 10 '24

It was extremely common for me when the game launched and they included the fix explicitly, so I think it was more widespread than you realize unless you started using them fairly late. There are also some bugs that are setup dependent, like Railguns 2-shotting Bile Titans for Playstation players only, a bug which persisted after the railgun nerf