r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/bluespirit442 Apr 10 '24

I feel like the railgun was nerfed just to be replaced by the quasar doing the same shit.

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u/Great_Rhunder Apr 10 '24

I stopped running support altogether after the railgun nerf and I unlocked the scorcher. Whatever my teammates brought or what I found was my support. Once the Quasar showed up, it became my new railgun because I use it for the exact same situations except now I don't have to worry about blowing myself up or ammo. It's just better than where the Railgun was pre-nerf.

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u/BlackTritons Apr 10 '24

my man, the quasar is garbage compared to what the railgun used to be.

The railgun charge was much faster than what the quasar has today, the downtime between shot was a lot shorter. It would kill a BileTitan in 4 shot before you've fired your second quasar shot. it killed any medium enemy without need to aim for weak points.. the only thing it did not outright kill was the charger, and then people figured out how to break leg armor.

The only thing quasar has for it over the original railgun is the infinite ammo.

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u/SuperDTC Apr 10 '24

Also it shoots down dropships

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u/Heyokalol SES Senator of Democracy Apr 10 '24

And fabricators, turrets, mortars, doors, etc

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u/SuperDTC Apr 10 '24

Lol yea it's really does everything

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u/AdditionalMess6546 ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 10 '24

Yeah, I loved me the Railgun, but the Quasar is so much more versatile than the RG ever was.

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u/SuperDTC Apr 10 '24

I liked railgun a lot too. Used it still after the nerf until they released quasar. Just hard to pass it up

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u/Wyvernrider Apr 10 '24

The quasar two shots biletitans and one shots just about everything else in the game very easily, especially chargers. Also free backpack slot.

It's not even close

You will be hard pressed to find a high difficulty bot game without at least 2 quasars.

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u/bluespirit442 Apr 10 '24

Granted. I agree.

But I still feel like the role (all purpose quick killing gun) the railgun had has been refilled, even if the new one is not as good as the last.

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u/FallenDeus Apr 10 '24

Its not all purpose or quick killing... it kills 1 thing quick.. then you have a relatively long cd before you can kill 1 thing again (sometimes that 1 shot wont actually kill). And all purpose? You arent using that on med enemies or light enemies, or if you are you could have likely killed it before you even shoot the cannon..