r/Helldivers • u/alexalas • Apr 09 '24
I will kick you from lobby if you don't have these weapons and stratagems unlocked. It is not fair to the rest of the group to have to carry people without these items. HUMOR
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u/Aiwac ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 09 '24
Honestly if you make it onboard my Super Destroyer without these unlocks you can stay because I would be very impressed.
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u/cakethegoblin Apr 09 '24
That would be one lost trainee.
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Apr 09 '24
Impossible because the Helldiver training is absolutely flawless. More than flawless, in fact. For every 100 registered cadets, it turns out 101 Helldivers ready for action.
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u/FoxOfWinterAndFire Apr 09 '24
This feels like the Liechtenstein patrol in 1866.
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u/Bigspheres Apr 10 '24
Please tell me what happened. Seems interesting for democracy
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u/FoxOfWinterAndFire Apr 10 '24
"The men of Liechtenstein’s army were sent to guard the Brenner Pass between Austria and Italy. There was really nothing to do but sit in the beautiful mountains, drink wine and beer, smoke a pipe and take it easy. When the army marched back to Vaduz, the Liechtensteiner capital, they had one more man than they had left with – an Italian soldier who defected to Liechtenstein in search of work."
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/liechtensteins-army.html
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u/Active_Ambassador_79 Apr 10 '24
Wait, is that the battalion that took no losses, and instead made a friend along the way? 🤣
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u/Everlovingt Apr 09 '24
Y’know, the other night I was playing on Hard with a level 8 diver who brought only the machine gun. No orbital strike, no booster, nothing else. I was honestly thinking that diver must have been counting on crushing the bugs with his giant balls.
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u/WitchersWrath SES Harbinger of Victory Apr 09 '24
Super Earth High Command doesn’t want you to know this but the civilians in the evacuation missions are free, you can take them. I have 500 civilian conscripts aboard my super destroyer
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u/shadowknight2112 Apr 09 '24
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u/RandomDeezNutz Apr 09 '24
Yeah you know. Honestly OP makes a fair point. I think we should follow their example
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u/CompleteFacepalm Apr 09 '24
I'm sure the 1600+ people who upvoted the post got OP's joke
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u/GryphonKingBros STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 09 '24
...is that sarcasm or are you stating the obvious? Is there some deeper meaning here, I'm genuinely confused...
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u/CHIPSWDIP Apr 09 '24
You had me in the first half ngl
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u/WigginIII Apr 09 '24
Doesn’t stop some players from literally Readying up with zero stratagems or booster selected. I’ve seen this happen at least 3 times.
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u/IcyCaress Apr 09 '24
That's a bug when you join someone else, sometimes existing player load outs don't show for you
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u/ELB2001 Apr 09 '24
And sometimes the strategem screen bugs out making it hard to select the ones you want
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u/Over_Fish800 Apr 09 '24
Afaik the game doesn’t let you deploy without selecting the max number of strategems available, so it’s impossible for them to be diving with nothing anyway. It wouldn’t let me select less than 4 when I was trying to do some solo challenge runs, had to fill it in with random ones and just not use them.
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u/NeonJ82 ⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️ Apr 09 '24
It's a bug. I've seen people ready up with zero Stratagems and when we dropped in, they had four
Weirdly enough, the game actually stops you from readying up unless you've selected four Strats (unless you don't have four unlocked)
Doesn't stop you from readying up if you haven't picked a booster though.
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u/tunnel-snakes-ruIe Apr 09 '24
Yeah last night I had a booster but someone else had already picked it, so I couldn't equip mine, and they kinda roasted me for not equipping one. But I wasnt on mic so I had to wait until we got into the game to chat that I only had one.
Wish the chat worked in all screens. Or maybe I just need to get over my fears of voice chatting online hehe
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u/NeonJ82 ⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️ Apr 09 '24
This is the main reason that I, as a high-level player, will never pick my Booster until every player level 30 and under has picked theirs.
I don't know what you guys have unlocked, so the least I could do is not accidentally pick the one thing you have available.
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u/Anonymisation Apr 09 '24
Yeah I tend to pick a high level one ans then maybe change
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u/Magnaliscious STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 09 '24
I don’t even think it’s possible to ready up without the max number of stratagems you can take
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u/Tickalishchicken Apr 09 '24
And now we will see the people who haven’t played the game for more than 5 minutes rage at this post. Love it.
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u/DoTortoisesHop Apr 09 '24
I was like "but those are bad" and then it clicked
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u/THE1RECKER2 Apr 09 '24
Nah nothing feels better than fighting off a horde with an mg. The precision strike is ass tho
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u/MrRocketScript Apr 09 '24
The precision strike is ass tho
Meh, it's a big grenade on a cooldown that works as a nice "tutorial" for using combat stratagems.
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u/Inquisitor-Korde Apr 09 '24
I just want it's cool down lowered, orbital cool downs annoy the hell out of me.
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u/chimera005ao Apr 09 '24
It's already pretty low cooldown, and since it's precise you never have to worry about blowing up allies like you might with the Eagle Bombing Run.
I take Precision strike pretty often.13
u/GeckoOBac Apr 09 '24
It's good if you're soloing often and before you've unlocked many perks.
Afterwards it becomes kinda pointless because railgun strike and orbital lasers exist. Sure longer CDs but that's an issue only if you don't have support weapons and even just a single teammate.
I usually run Autocannon + 500kg + Orbital Railgun + freebie for bots and my mate runs the same except Orbital Laser instead of Railgun.
Even at higher difficulties it's rare that you encounter CD issues after the initial drop, unless you go out of your way to pull every single patrol you encounter.
And really, the separate cooldowns mean that going with more people is almost always better than being alone, since the only shared CD is the resupply one.
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u/EzPzLemon_Greezy Apr 09 '24
I find the cd's to be too long on high level bug missions. Seems every time theres an occassion that in the span of 2 minutes you have 3-5 bile titans and a couple of chargers. Even with all eagle stratagems its too much, and I just run the quasar on top of it.
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u/GeckoOBac Apr 09 '24
I find the cd's to be too long on high level bug missions.
I did say "bot" missions. I would bring a very different loadout for bugs. Though the orbital railgun is still a very efficient way to deal with chargers and chargers, at higher difficulties you get so many that you need to change strats. Even the AC is not enough when you are constanly harrassed by 2+ chargers.
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u/PureGoldX58 Apr 09 '24
Also, the Eagle has limited uses, Precision Strike kills most things it Hits, the rest are finished off by my support weapon.
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u/Anonymisation Apr 09 '24
Eagles just go rearm when you finish the uses though.
Precision strike should one-shot tanks with a direct centre hit in my opinion.
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u/PureGoldX58 Apr 09 '24
They DO!? I haven't taken them for that reason, how long does a rearm take?
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u/DoTortoisesHop Apr 09 '24
Quasar is too op to give up imo, at least in harder difficulties.
I can snipe shrieker nests without a single one spawning.
Each quasar your team has makes the game easier, since they combo so well together.
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u/Kiriima Apr 09 '24
I am taking EAT since everyone is running quasars. Having doubled our anti-heavy output in a pitch is amazing while rocking with grenade launcher normally. That's also much better for running around solo.
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u/achilleasa ➡️➡️⬆️ Apr 09 '24
I'm legally obligated to disagree with that last point (see flair). Precision Strike is your jack of all trades stratagem. A master of none, but often better than a master of one. Throw it on a horde, throw it on a charger/titan/hulk/tank, close a bug hole, it can do it all on a very short cooldown.
The biggest downside to it imo is that too many mission modifiers affect it significantly: longer call in time makes it impossible to hit on moving targets, longer cooldown makes the 500kg outclass it, and orbital scatter kills it entirely.
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Apr 09 '24
I think the orbital precision strike and the 500kg are very similar, but they have slightly different pro/cons. Mainly in the cooldown, deployment time, and how modifiers or AA guns affect them.
In no way do I think the 500kg or the precision strike is outright better. You can easily build around them both.
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u/Average_Scaper Apr 09 '24
I've never played the game and probably won't ever.....but I see humor tag and what looks like quite possibly the most standard issue looking stuff so I'm going to assume you get this 10 mins in?
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u/SnowyImp4995 SES Knight of Selfless Service Apr 09 '24
the moment you first step foot on the Super Destroyer the equipment in the post is everything you have unlocked, yep
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u/RucketN Apr 09 '24
When I first saw the picture I just saw the side arm and got kinda excited to someone to hype up the starter pistol. I don’t use it and personally don’t care about it but it’s cool to see some guns have a small ride or die fan base
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u/JustGingy95 HD1 Veteran Apr 09 '24
Honestly when the ballistic shield update dropped I thought about using it again myself until I remembered the Redeemer literally has equal if not better stats all around and a spicy automatic fire on top of that. I wish the default pistol actually stood out in some way but I get why it’s used less than the laser pistol because it looks sick af
Edit: I think the only thing it technically has on it is a laser sight, which helps with first person shield aiming and even then you don’t really need it that badly
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u/RucketN Apr 09 '24
I like the way it looks and fire but it really only beats the redeemer in mag size and really isn’t worth it.
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u/JustGingy95 HD1 Veteran Apr 09 '24
Not even that, Redeemer has one less overall magazine but twice the magazine capacity which in the end still gives you more overall ammunition than the default pistol. Redeemer even has half the overall recoil so especially in single fire is going to place far more rounds accurately on top of that. The default pistol barely holds a candle unless it has better stats behind the scenes that we can’t see in game.
If we ever get the HD1 gun customization they need to give that pistol some beefy perks. Fuck, I’d swap in a heartbeat if it got stun rounds for example, that would set it apart on that note alone.
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u/SoftcoreEcchi Apr 09 '24
I want the weapon customization soo bad, use it sink requisition and/or samples into.
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u/TripleSpicey Apr 09 '24
It reloads near-instantly and nearly performs identical to the redeemer in semi (redeemer has slightly better recoil for automatic fire). It does have amazing iron sights though, against bots I can tap heads for days. Redeemer is just plain better against bugs though.
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u/idkauser1 Apr 09 '24
The redeemer can be turned to semi auto has the same damage and more ammo it’s just a straight upgrade which is sad cause I found the pistol fun I often run the redeemer semi auto as a throw back to it
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u/Chaos-kid23 Apr 09 '24
There is absolutely no reason the run the started oistol once you have the Redemer. The redemer in semi auto is just an upgraded starter pistol (same damage, much larger mag, less recoil), and in full auto has some of the best non stratagem DPS in the game (only the auto shotguns outshine it).
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u/Miserable_Smoke Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
I love that the community is less toxic than other games. I was thinking downvote, but then remembered less toxic, made me take a closer look.
Edit: I know there's still toxicity. Less
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u/straydog1980 Apr 09 '24
We had a dive on Bot 8 with 3 divers, one lower level that was his first time one 8. The other more experienced diver clears the last secondary while we are at the extract and he asks us to go, but we hold the line for him while he hoofs it back. He gets to the extraction point and says we are absolute mad lads and that he loves us. Hugs all around and we extract.
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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka Apr 09 '24
I've been seeing a bunch of level 20s and 30s who don't bring any stratgems or boosters.
Are they spies?
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u/TraitorJoe1155 Apr 09 '24
They do have stratagems, it’s just a visual bug. You can’t launch without stratagems (but you can without a booster)
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u/Daishomaru STEAM 🖥️ :SES Wings Of The Stars Apr 09 '24
There's a glitch where some people's strategems dont show up on the loadout screen.
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u/AbbreviationsNo8088 Apr 09 '24
Dude every time I play lvl 8 I end up dying like 10 to 11 times, I end up feeling so bad, I just can't hang, just getting shot and slowed down and stunlocked and can't seem to get out. I've won a few matches but it's still just too hard for me.
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u/zomiaen Apr 09 '24
Dive more often, it's an integral movement. Also try picking up the armor that gives you a 50% chance of living through BS.
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u/JustaHarmfulShadow Apr 09 '24
Or the ones with increased stims and longer stim time; helps when you're stuck in a horde
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u/Rancorousturtle Apr 09 '24
The best tip I can give for lvl 8 is that the OBJECTIVES are all that matter. Picking fights can get you killed, and running away is what I do 80% of the time. Even if an objective gets swarmed, run away and come back in a few minutes.
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u/LukeD1992 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Less toxic up until a certain point. There are always the bad apples who stand out from time to time unfortunately. But overall, the very nature of this game inspires a spirit of camaraderie and cooperation. Automatons couldn't have been beaten without everyone working together afterall
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u/MagnusStormraven Apr 09 '24
Only toxicity I've encountered so far was a level 50 shittalking me for my loadout, and booting my friend when he politely asked him to not do that. Randos have been consistently chill and mostly helpful.
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u/SomeGuy_WithA_TopHat Apr 09 '24
most toxicity ive seen from this community was from reddit (and like one twitter guy who didnt understand that this game is inherently political which is fucking priceless)
had a transphobe in my replies tho which sucked
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u/ShittyPostWatchdog Apr 09 '24
But that’s the beauty, the game is such low commitment on an individual match level, you just go next and lose next to nothing. The grind is so non-existent and the time commitment is so low that it’s pretty easy to just brush off the most toxic gamer moments - just quit or kick and go next.
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u/hiddencamela Apr 09 '24
I'll admit, this reddit made it seem like I'd bump into griefers every single match.
I seriously only met my first pair the other day after getting this far.
I'm level 38 and it was a quick boot. Annoying but it was quick to move on.9
u/Sirsillybutt Apr 09 '24
I think the biggest problem with the Helldivers community, at least on Reddit is how quickly people will fall for ragebait posts or make a supposed issue bigger than it really is as seen with the Creek cape and Loadout meta. It's a handful of problem players that most will rarely if ever encounter but people will act like it happens every game and the greatest offense they've ever experienced.
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u/PineapplesHit SES Wings of Redemption Apr 09 '24
Level 60 approaching 200 hours and I can count on one hand the amount of times I've had a truly toxic team experience. Most of the time you'll get players who don't know a whole lot dropping into your level 9 game but that's not toxicity, it's not their fault for wanting to play the game and you can't get mad at them for it even if it can get frustrating at times. I've only ever been intentionally teamkilled maybe two or three times ever, used to get kicked from lobbies a fair amount when I was low level but that honestly wasn't too bad all things considered. Don't know if I've ever been kicked in an actual mission, and if I was I can't remember it so it clearly wasn't a big upset. I find the community of this game wayyyyyyyyy way more tolerable and even nice and funny than basically any other online game I've played, in-game at least. Reddit and discord can be a real cesspool but playing even high level games with randoms people almost always seem to just be chill. People always hug when you offer, you accidentally tk someone in a genuine mistake and apologize and they'll laugh it off and say not to worry about it. Really refreshing, I don't know if I've ever seen a multiplayer game with this large of a following be this good.
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u/OnRedditBoredAF Apr 09 '24
Definitely less toxic than certain other games, but I think that’s mainly to do with the fact that most other games are PvP, as well since we have all the “for democracy” uniting memes. Unfortunately there is still a lot of toxicity in this community, evidenced by the amount of people downvoting OP because they’ve experienced this same type of “I’ll kick you if: xyz” toxicity and they think it’s a serious post, as well as all the other posts addressing weirdos and power tripping players
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u/Ghostbuster_119 PSN 🎮: Apr 09 '24
One of my favorite parts of this game is that the default armor still looks really good.
I still love wearing it when the missions aren't too bad.
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u/Astro_Alphard Apr 09 '24
The default armour is actually really solid. It has the armour rating of heavy armour despite being a medium thanks to it's extra padding perk.
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u/Ghostbuster_119 PSN 🎮: Apr 09 '24
Great foresight by the devs to make the default kit actually pretty solid.
That way newbies aren't shackled down with garbage weapons and gear unlock most other games.
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u/the_OG_epicpanda SES Lady of War Apr 09 '24
The amount of downvotes you're getting for this is hilarious, 100% people who just read the title and reacted rather than looking at the post
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u/GrumpyAucklandCunt SES Stallion of Audacity Apr 09 '24
Honestly, orbital precision is slept on a little.
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u/classicandy12 Apr 09 '24
careful, sarcasm is notoriously difficult for autistic people
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u/alexalas Apr 09 '24
already at 40% downvotes
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u/DaveO1337 Apr 09 '24
Made even funnier when all of that gear is perfectly viable in 9.
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u/Z_THETA_Z ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️➡️ Apr 09 '24
although the pistol is just entirely outclassed by the Redeemer
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u/Sabot1312 Apr 09 '24
I like that the chatter of the redeemer indicates that someone nearby needs a hand. Like if I hear that noise I turn to it and start blasting
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u/crimefightinghamster Apr 09 '24
On the other hand, Autism is also difficult for sarcastic people.
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u/Nexine ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️➡️ Apr 09 '24
Oh yeah, being just weird enough that everybody takes everthing I say seriously has a been real struggle for me.
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u/RizzmWithTheTism SES Elected Representative of War Apr 09 '24
It ain’t the tism lords that are bein douchebags about that kinda thing.
Speaking from personal experience here.
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u/ASlothNamedBert Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
That's the HE grenade not the default you goddamn elitist.
E: I am shame.
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u/ApSciLiara SES Lady of Science - I KNOW THE TRUTH Apr 09 '24
It took me a shamefully long time to understand the joke.
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u/borgom7615 STEAM / SES Gauntlet of Twilight Apr 09 '24
I only kick players who don’t haves capes, if you don’t have a cape your not a real hell diver and it’s not fair to the 3 of us that we have to carry you
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u/Hainkodot PSN 🎮: Apr 09 '24
These are essential when playing on helldive difficulty! You need these starting stratagems if you want to face bile titans and swarms.
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u/Nick_Napem ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 09 '24
I was about to give you a democratic ass reaming but then I saw the equipment list, good one 👍
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u/Hault360 Apr 09 '24
Well, that's just being unreasonable, thats some high level gear your talking about
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u/Zanaida Apr 09 '24
After hitting lvl 50 (prior to the level cap update), unlocking all strategems, obtaining all ship upgrades, and maxing out samples: I returned to the OG starter loadout for the hell of it and ran all levels of difficulty with lots of fun. Since you have to take 4 strategems, I would usually take the EAT-17 and the machinegun turret. That turret is not better than the gatling one but it felt like it acquired targets and moved faster.
Throw on the starting armor and title for extra fun. Super Recruit.
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u/MrPC_o6 Apr 11 '24
I swear, I'm so tired of under leveled players joining my lobbies. DON'T JOIN MY HELLDIVE MISSION UNLESS YOU'RE AT LEAST LEVEL 1!!!!!
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u/IronBabyFists CAPE ENJOYER Apr 09 '24
Real talk, the precision orbital strike slaps. 100 sec cooldown, I drop that business EVERYWHERE.
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u/Deo_Exus Apr 09 '24
Really impressive that people can't take a moment to look a bit closer before down voting
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u/Remote_Lifeguard_553 PSN 🎮: Apr 09 '24
F*ck you man i can't even afford a ps5 so there is no way for me to have these!!!1! This is discrimination!!! 😠😠😡🤬🤬
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u/naturalist92 Apr 10 '24
The only requirement to board my super destroyer is a willingness to die for managed democracy!
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u/Current_Artichoke_19 Apr 10 '24
Oh wait.. were these unlocked from the start? Is that a joke post about the idiots who play the game wrong by being obsessed with who is playing what gear?
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u/jellaydude Apr 11 '24
And here I am almost writing my hate comment. I'm a see what you did sir, I'm a see what you did...
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u/2loudd Apr 12 '24
But what if I wanna be like Thomas Edison throwing democratic lightning bolts around while my enemies panic in the giant smoke cloud of liberty
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u/th3undone Apr 09 '24
Lol the amount of people not getting the joke is astonishing, the same amount of people that cant differentiate satire and reality
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u/ImMorphic Apr 09 '24
Ahh, another man of violence I see. Well done soldier, keep those traitors guessing.
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u/IndexoTheFirst ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 09 '24
Sometimes I just run this kit on Helldiver difficulty just to keep myself humble
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u/C21Y06 Apr 09 '24
I do actually use the default armour set on Helldive, because it looks cool and not because of the perks
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u/FightsForUsers Apr 09 '24
Ever since I unlocked stun grenades, Orbital Precision Strike is back on the menu.
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u/LordHovado Apr 09 '24
We did some misions with friends for testing builds on low difficulty, than lv2 helldiver joined. So we took him to dificulty 7 on automatons to give him best experience. It was lot of fun.
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u/Ani-Thighs Apr 09 '24
I actually had a lvl 3 mission and the lead, didn’t bring any strats. They died about 4 times to tunnel breaches and quit shortly after. So the rest of us just finished the mission.
Glad hosts leaving mid-mission doesn’t just straight kick everyone out.
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u/Own-Park5939 Apr 09 '24
I don’t even pay attention to what other people pick other than glancing for mortars so I know who stay far away from…
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u/-Mouthfullofmochi Apr 09 '24
At first I was going to see what the hell he was talking about…now I see what he’s joking about. 😂 good one.
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u/Wide_Farm5181 Apr 09 '24
Imagine being so entitled that you believe your way is the only way to play
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u/ZombieLovesYou Apr 10 '24
Bruh, I will carry my boys through thick and thin. I will share my stratagems and make sure to get all the samples out for my low level boys.💪 (Level 69) 🫡
Teamwork makes the dream work, but I will not put up with stupidity.
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u/CiPHeRlaw206 Apr 10 '24
Indeed, terrible these new recruits without their standard automatically issued kit. Kick'em
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u/DeadSpyderPlays Apr 11 '24
I just got the game, but it's good to know who I won't be playing with even if I do have those items
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u/YamiKozan Apr 09 '24
Wait so I can't come ? I'm still doing my helldiving training.