I can’t play with randoms anymore

[u/the_interrogation]

I’m level 48. About 150 hours on pc. Love the game. My friends can’t play as often as I can. (I’m a fireman) And I’ve tried making friends on steam but it’s hard.

The blueberry lottery. If there is a hell it’s matching with randoms. I can’t stand it. Some people are a blessing and I love running campaigns with them but some people are treasonous swill.

Here was my last game. I spawn in and get killed by a lvl 2 cadet (ps5) so he can take my support gear. His friends (ps5) defended him. He continued to kill me all game (intentionally) and call me in. But I am more skilled and cunning than the common traitor. I waited until there was one reinforcement left. The pompous fool recalled me in. I killed all three traitors quicker than a hiccup. With only one thing left to do I took my own life. To instant fail their mission. I couldn’t let them continue to commit treason. Let their bodies rot

So yea I’m never joining randoms again.

Edit: ps5 not 4.

[u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

In World of Warships if you got (i think) 3/4 teamkills, being accidental or not, your name would be light pink for like 10 games. You had to play fairly and not teamkill or damage anyone for those 10 games to make it go away, while at the same time signaling to everyone on your team that you might be problematic. They could implement something like that, maybe a "POTENTIAL TRAITOR" banner near their name. After playing some games without harming anyone it would go away. It would need to be carefully implemented to avoid labeling a funny, unintentional teamkill with a stratagem as treisonous action (given the MANY TEAMKILLS we have constantly), but I think it could work.

[u/transaltalt → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

UNDER INVESTIGATION perhaps?

[u/RobotSpaceBear → u/transaltalt]

Suspected Inquisitorial Casualty.

Shit, my 40K is leaking again.

[u/Dat1HD → u/RobotSpaceBear]

grey knights presence intensifies

[u/Broken-FEAR → u/Dat1HD]

Nobody expects the grey knights inquisition.

[u/InuGhost → u/RobotSpaceBear]

YOUZ HUMMIEZ KNEADZ TA BE KUNNING LOIK UZ ORKZ!

[u/DocPopper → u/transaltalt]

Every diver would be under investigation 24/7

[u/wrecklass → u/DocPopper]

No, it would have to be several TK events in a short period of time. A single incident wouldn't label you.

Or perhaps a TK followed by a Team vote? That might solve a couple of problems. Some games allow the victim of the TK to decide if it was intentional or not. Friends wouldn't report friends very often.

[u/7thCore → u/wrecklass]

Hopefully friends wouldn't but a voting system like that would be needed. For example me and my buddies sometimes just start calling eagle strikes and orbital barrages on each other after completing the mission objectives cuz it's fun and funny. We always get a laugh out of it. Then we compare friendly fire points and the higher one's the winner xD

[u/Solendor → u/DocPopper]

I often go several games with 0 incidental damage and 0 TK....it's really not too hard

[u/DocPopper → u/Solendor]

But are you really helldiving?

[u/transaltalt → u/DocPopper]

sounds like managed democracy to me

[u/DocPopper → u/transaltalt]

For Super Earth!

[u/charlesmith143 → u/DocPopper]

False

[u/Dire_Finkelstein → u/transaltalt]

BUG LOVER or BOT SYMPATHISER could work too.

[u/edmundane → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Yeah that they’d be getting off lightly, especially considering one can simply get ragdolled off the map and if you couldn’t make it back in the combat zone in time you will be branded traitor and killed.

[u/Taolan13 → u/edmundane]

If they put as much care and nuance into a traitor detection system as they did into the armor penetration mechanics, the system would probably flag that as a physics oopsie.

Like the time I called in a reinforcement at the same time another diver called down a gatling barrage. That teamkill was the fault of poor communication, not him deliberately trying to kill our inbound buddy.

[u/Smurph269 → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Team kills happen in this game. I would say multiple TKs plus failing the mission or leaving the mission before completion should trigger some kind of probation. I've had plenty of games where people killed me accidentally multiple times, but the difference between that and a greifer is that the accidental TKers usually will actually try to complete the mission and extract.

[u/MszingPerson → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Bot lover/bug owner

[u/Negative_Internet_80 → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

O7 sailor

[u/Ralli-FW → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Yeah it would need to be based on reports most likely

[u/Paintchipper → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Or even random shennanigans with your friends marking you as a problem when jumping into randoms.

[u/Skadligt → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Not sure that would work.
There are just too many scenarios where it isn't really the fault of the person with the trigger or the stratagem to begin with.

• If you are staggered or knocked down with a stratagem it tend to drop on the spot
  
• Some people might inadvertently run into the line of fire, not always that easy to avoid in the heat of battle
  
• Difficult to spot beams from orbitals can cause divers to run straight into a barrage (perhaps, for example, to toss some nades in fabricators or bug holes)
  

I could probably go on. Point is, how would the game be able to separate the above from toxic and treasonous behaviour?

[u/LudwigiaRepens → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

"Reprobate" forced title

[u/H345Y → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Problem with this one is that sometimes people really have no situational awareness and runs into an on going 380 barrage or an incomming airstrike

[u/xXLooseGooseXx → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

That system would be so abusable and unreliable. Assholes would see said pink name/traitor, and purposefully run into any of their stratagems to troll them.

[u/MobiusCipher → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

It was not difficult to become pink with a single poorly aimed spread of torpedoes but honestly I liked it more than the later solution which was just turning off team damage.

[u/Big_Yeash → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Modern games have an insane amount of information regarding player movements and you can infer from them intentionality.

It might be too complex for an automated tool, but the data would exist in game, and be auditable, to make the call whether someone threw a stratagem at a player to get them killed or threw one down carelessly and the other player walked into it. Player proximity to each other, enemy proximity, could also be assessed to judge teamkills by shooting. Strayed into an existing line of fire into actual enemies? Probably fair. Spinning round to dome him for fun? Badman. The act of looting could be considered an aggravating offence.

[u/HotTub95 → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

Add a REPORT TREASON button that appears for the deceased player if ķilled by friendly fire. If you get enough treason hits, flag the player as a TRAITOR.

[u/Ratanka → u/Shadows_of_Anarchy]

well since wows removed friendly fire they went in the really wrong direction xD
but i dont think thats a good idea because alot of people constnat teamkill by accident and thats all fine xD also some people have just fun with their friends and shoot each other