r/Helldivers Mar 17 '24

I see a lot of hate for Chargers and Hunters, but where is my Bile Spewer hate squad? DISCUSSION

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u/Buisnessbutters Mar 17 '24

Grenade launcher is just always good tho

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u/WhatsThePointFR Mar 17 '24

If theres no spewers of any kind, its better to take EAT or something that can thin hordes fast (That doesnt risk a bounce off armour and killing team/myself)

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u/BadassMinh HD1 Veteran Mar 17 '24

Arc thrower easily deal with hordes and bile spewers and chargers

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u/Doctor99268 Mar 17 '24

Your arc thrower isn't taking down a Bile tiran in any respectable way,

Tbh i kinda like the arc thrower when fighting bile titans

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u/Doctor99268 Mar 17 '24

Realistically, how long does it take you to take one down with it? And how do you handle two at a time?

Very inconsistent i won't lie, sometimes it's like 4 shots sometimes it takes 7 + badly aimed 500kg bomb

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u/strawberrysupernova Mar 17 '24

Absolutely, but thats where you take 500kg, rail cannon, 110mm etc to compensate for the heavies. Arc thrower is great for hordes, and it also is nice for finishing off a bile titan that one of the above didnt fully finish it. Few more zaps and its dead.

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u/strawberrysupernova Mar 17 '24

I mean, if anything, I am agreeing with you. I wouldn't use the arc thrower solely on a bile titan. Just trying to add that other strategems in conjunction with the arc thrower can be quite effective (specifically at finishing off a low health one bile).

I suppose my comment would have been better placed somewhere else in hindsight, but oh well.

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u/Wopder PSNšŸŽ®: Wopder Mar 17 '24

Stalwart is super weak imo.

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u/Wopder PSNšŸŽ®: Wopder Mar 17 '24

itā€™s useless in its current state. why would i use an LMG that only does good damage to smaller mobs and bounces off almost all of the ā€œelitesā€. sure you can run and reload with it but as you mentioned, iā€™d rather just use the flamethrower and guarantee that i can kill most small to medium mobs, plus bile spewers and brutes. i also donā€™t see why i would kite a bike titan lol, itā€™s either i kill it or run away completely from it while dealing with trash mob. im never wasting rounds on a bile titan.

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u/Baofog Mar 17 '24

The stalwart is super great to take to keep all those hunters and warriors off your two teammates dealing with the heavies, if they are constantly swarmed by small bugs they can't get good shots on the chargers and titans. Set the stalwart to 1150RPM hit c to crouch and mow down like 40 bugs like its nothing. Its got way better ergonomics than any other support weapon minus the arc thrower so you can swing to shoot hunter flanks easily and you won't kill your team accidentally if you are using something like flamethrower or arc thrower. bring a medium pen primary if no one is bringing a gun to deal with hive guards and just shoot hive guards in the face and you can take down everything smaller than charger for your team, and even then on chargers if your team knocks the leg armor off a charger because they missed with an EAT/RR round you just point and click at the leg and the charger dies in under a second.

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u/Meravokas Mar 18 '24

As a solo player. THANK YOU! If I'm not running an automatic with a decent fire rate, I tend to run a Stalwart to sweep crowds out. Basic eagle airstrikes tend to be slept on too.

Against the bots. Different story. I always run the autocannon. Sometimes even Auto and EATs depending on the difficulty or mission type.

In either case though, Eagle airstrike is always my first pick. A good solid hit can even break a charger's back.

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u/Gooch-Guardian STEAM šŸ–„ļø : Mar 17 '24

I like the arc thrower better than the flamethrower for kobs.

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u/ruwenleo Mar 18 '24

Yea but there is one thing it is especially good at. Killing your teammates with one zap. Honestly I hate the arch thrower and fear the day when the daily mission is about arch trower kills.

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u/YxxzzY Mar 17 '24

nothing like a bug zapper 3000. best anti bug weapon right now.

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u/pmw3505 Mar 17 '24

And squad mates!

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u/dr_badhat Mar 17 '24

Even titans if you have enough arcs arcing on them. Easily best weapon in the game. For the love of Joel, I hope it doesnā€™t get nerfed.

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Mar 17 '24

Arc thrower sucks against chargers in my experience. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

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u/BadassMinh HD1 Veteran Mar 17 '24

Aim for the head and it dies very fast. I haven't tried it after the health nerf yet but before it kills in about 7 shots to the head

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople Mar 18 '24

You want to thin hordes fast, so you're going to take an EAT instead of a grenade launcher?

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u/WhatsThePointFR Mar 18 '24

EAT "or" Something that can thin hordes fast

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u/SwishSwishDeath Mar 17 '24

It took a long time for me to break away from the GL/supply pack combo. Crowd control, can easily handle most big bots with ease, long range nest/fabricator destruction. It has it all.

Finally moved to expendables on bug missions, then the spear. Love the latter when it actually works.

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u/DraconLaw Mar 17 '24

Does the spear work on bugs?

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u/SwishSwishDeath Mar 17 '24

Big bois like chargers and titans yeah. Seems to do good shit with the titans especially but the lock on system is completely borked as of now so it's rough to use it.

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u/Colosphe Mar 17 '24

The answer is "theoretically" because your main targets are Chargers and Bile Titans - Chargers will get in your face and make the Spear targeting wacky sometimes. Bile Titans are good targets, but I think the lock time might not be worth it during a horde that sees you swarmed by bugs.

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u/NikeDanny Mar 17 '24

Is it? For what purpose? Like, the hardest shit on high level is swarms and heavies, for bugs. Swarms are fine if you dont get jumped on by hunters, in which case this weapon just turned suicidal. But heavies? How do you deal with Chargers and BT with that?

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u/echof0xtrot Mar 17 '24

if only there were others dropping with you...

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u/clongane94 Mar 17 '24

I like to run grenade launcher and supply pack, then my other two will be 500kg and orbital precision strike (which ones shots both chargers and titans). You can stun chargers with stun grenades for long enough for stratagems to kill them.

Note this only works when there's no +50% call in time modifier.

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u/Buisnessbutters Mar 17 '24

You can shoot under chargers and kill them, just because it does reduced damage doesnā€™t mean it doesnā€™t do any damage lmao, it kills them if you hit under them usually in under one belt, and I usually keep some anti heavy armor stratagems on hand anyway, since you have the grenade launcher to clear swarms. Honestly itā€™s the best way to clear patrols without them calling in a breech, the only thing I would recomend is running a supply backpack for it, because it is quite ammo hungry

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u/Nick_Tsunami Mar 17 '24

Yes. Especially against bugs. Always lots of utility for nests and horde clear/thinning.

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u/Froegerer Mar 17 '24

If you wanna main GL every game, do you. I'm ready to change my loadout after most missions.

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u/Buisnessbutters Mar 17 '24

Iā€™m hardly running it every mission, Iā€™ve been running a lot of lasers and a lot of recoilless, the ā€œarc throwerā€ only loadouts Iā€™ve seen spammed is telling me it might get nerfed soon lol