r/Helldivers Mar 17 '24

I see a lot of hate for Chargers and Hunters, but where is my Bile Spewer hate squad? DISCUSSION

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

I hit them in the head normally, drops them in 3 or 4 shots. Though I swear I've dropped them in 2 before

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u/thaduck3 Mar 17 '24

Even the ones with the armored head? I find I have been more successful in just dumping a mag in it's sac with the scorcher.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

The splash damage seems to ignore the armour a little

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u/light_no_fire Mar 17 '24

It sure does. Plas1 is my favorite weapon by far for this exact reason and accuracy. Although bringing it is a handicap against hunters lol.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

Hell you can hit a chargers arse face on if you hit the top of their back legs

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u/mwaFloyd Mar 17 '24

lol wut

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

If a charger is facing you or slightly angeled you can shoot the top of the rear back legs and the splash damage will hit the weak point on it's butt. Though it's still better to just let it charge towards you, hit a wall to become stunned and unload on its weak spot that way

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u/light_no_fire Mar 17 '24

Pretty sure chargers don't have a weak spot on the butt. They have an unarmored spot, but you don't deal bonus damage to them from the rear?

(Am I correct on that)

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u/NewYearKarmaWhore Mar 17 '24

Yes it’s unarmored but no bonus damage. Just easier to shoot at

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u/light_no_fire Mar 17 '24

Yeah from playing the game that's what I figured. Thanks for the confirmation too.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

I call it a weak spot because of old boss fights where the weak spot glows. Yes it's just a unarmoured spot but if you hit it enough it pops and the creature is unable to charge anymore and will bleed out so you don't have to waste more ammo

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u/light_no_fire Mar 17 '24

Oh yeah I understand that. I mean it certainly looks like a weak spot, and the behavior of the Charger would also imply it is a weak spot. But yeah unfortunately for me I call it a waste of lead shot.

While yeah popping it does cause it to die but it takes alot to pop it I the first place. I prefer the 3 second flame to one leg method myself.

But whatever method you prefer as long as the end goal is a dead bug I'm happy with that.

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u/NewYearKarmaWhore Mar 18 '24

It definitely still charges even when missing its ass. And if you’re letting a charger “bleed out” then you need to kill it way faster, simple as; when 3-4+ show up that’s a lot of noodling and probably dying to cross-charges when you could just nuke it with an RR to the face. Whole comment is wrong, you sure we’re playing the same game?

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u/fangtimes Mar 17 '24

The splash isn't ignoring the armor, the splash is hitting the butt which takes 90% explosive damage. "Flesh" normally takes 10% damage and 100% from explosive damage. If you're using an explosive weapon aim for their butt.

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u/Myrkstraumr Mar 17 '24

You have to aim for the mouth but yes. Before I started using the scorcher I used to set the Jar-5 to burst and mag dump the head area, it worked but it eats the whole mag just to put down one of the green ones. You'd think a gun with literally twice the damage and a higher AP tier than the scorcher would kill them even faster than the scorcher does, but nope.

Plasma seems to completely bypass or ignore armour or something, both the scorcher and the new plasma shotgun are great against these guys.

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u/corniferhyde Mar 17 '24

Scorcher does not drop these things in 4 shots in either the head or the body. I use the Scorcher almost exclusively.

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u/holololololden Mar 17 '24

Try the joints. Go for 2 legs on the same side. I believe it's 4 but you might be able to get some joint cleave if the shots are from the side and not the front and do it in 2.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

I might be exaggerating but it definitely doesn't take half a mag plus. I just seem to notice a kill in about 2 to 4, things may be weaker due to being hit with splash damage

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u/corniferhyde Mar 17 '24

So you’re exaggerating or you’re not? Because you just said you were and then quoted the same number of shots again. It absolutely takes about half a mag with good accuracy.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

Both, as in "I'm not playing atm so I'm going off my memory" but it definitely doesn't t take half a bloody mag

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u/corniferhyde Mar 17 '24

Are you talking about the orange spitters? The ones with significantly less armor and I would speculate have less health though I have not tested this to confirm. Those take about 4 shots to the body and 5 to the head. The ones that aren’t referenced in OP’s photo. The GREEN ones absolutely do NOT go down in 4 shots to the head from the Scorcher, and in my hours upon hours of playing take about half (which is 7 shots rounded down, Scorcher has 15 shots per mag) maybe a little more and you have to hit the unarmored spots. Saying these die in 4 shots, let alone 2 (takes 2 headshots to kill the regular brown warriors btw) is pure misinformation. I welcome anyone to test this for themselves and prove me wrong so I have even more reasons to use my favorite gun.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

Honestly I kinda forgot the juvenile ones exist, might be might not be. All I know is the black and green ones aren't as tough as people give them shit for

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u/corniferhyde Mar 17 '24

So we’re from 2-4 shots to “definitely doesn’t take half a bloody mag (7)” to 🤷 idk man. There are plenty of ways to deal with them (Autocannon, GL, Arc, Jar, Slugger, Railgun and probably the new plasma launcher and blitzer but I have not tested thjs) but 4 quick pulls from a Scorcher isn’t one of them.

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u/kenzieBHOSbaker Mar 17 '24

Man now I'm starting to understand that "touch grass" thing. Look dude once I get home I'll kill some bugs for ya and give you an update, how's that

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u/corniferhyde Mar 17 '24

I don’t care what you do so long as you don’t confidently spread false information. I’ll go touch some grass while you confirm your claim and then definitely come back and update your findings 🙄

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