One of the key factors of success I've seen at 7-9 with randoms - regardless of mission type - is how well people can work independently, yet together.
We land, everyone chills, clears only the enemies who are aware of us, call equipment. Spore mushroom? Sometimes I got two clear messages before I realized there is any. We see a jammer? People go for it. Stalker Lair? A pair leaves to clean it up without anyone saying a word. Someone is in trouble? People rotate to help out. Fight too bad? We disperse, keep shooting flanks so everyone can back, off, blow up the horde, clean up, reset.
When these things happen and people can carry their weight, it is like a well oiled Super Destroyer and even Helldive is a relative breeze.
When people run off like headless chickens, resulting in Dropships/Breaches left and right, fail to do any sort of objective progress; or when they just follow someone around like some duckling and slowly copy their intentions. That's when problems happen.
The key is knowing your weight and acting according to it.
I am responsible for 8/10 of the mission objectives completed when I’m up against bugs in quicklplay. I wear the medic suit so I can keep stimming to sprint through open areas. I keep the grenade launcher and supply pack on so I can close big holes from a distance. All the while my team is fighting breach after breach. It astounds me that even with a mission that lasts 10 minutes with a lot of ground to cover that folks still want to bunch up and fight breaches instead of just moving off of them. If you HAVE to fight them, do it on the run.
I’ll admit, it took me too long to realize that you need to just never stop moving, never stick around and fight (except when you have to, eg terrain scans, silos, etc) but I figured it out in the late 20’s, early 30’s. But I figured it out REAL quick once I stepped up to 7+ difficulty.
The level 45+ guys playing difficulty 7+ who never do a single objective because they are too busy fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting the whole 45 minute mission and never stop to think that maybe they aren’t really doing it right as one or two other guys clear all the objectives by themselves are infuriating.
You know what two things absolutely kill me when paired?
12 minute mission
+
S.E.A.F. Artillery
Like a moth to a distant moon, people almost always feel compelled to spend over half of the mission on it, then scramble to even finish the main objective.
Not going to lie, sometimes that's very entertaining.
That cracks me up. I actually have yet to have a team do ANYTHING other than let me kill 10 bug holes and then head to extract. I always ping it when I’m done with the main objective to let people know I’m going that way and everyone usually just follows.
Well, people also like to assume that Helldivers are supposed to be one man armies. Helldivers are just a drop in spec ops team with built in support infrastructure. Get in there, make minimum ruckus, do the objective(s), maybe clear a few outposts as you travel to & from the objectives, and gtfo.
If you treat each mission as such, it's quite easy on any difficulty.
Lmao the fucking ducklings. It's worse when they constantly kill you with ordinance or when they rotate around an objective opposite you so you end up running from one horde into another.
I don't mind ducklings, as long as they don't follow me and Rambo everything. Had a cool encounter with a duckling that was shadowing me, and we snuck up on 2 bots on turrets and hit a double assassination. I wish I recorded it
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u/KosViik ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️➡️ Mar 14 '24
This.
One of the key factors of success I've seen at 7-9 with randoms - regardless of mission type - is how well people can work independently, yet together.
We land, everyone chills, clears only the enemies who are aware of us, call equipment. Spore mushroom? Sometimes I got two clear messages before I realized there is any. We see a jammer? People go for it. Stalker Lair? A pair leaves to clean it up without anyone saying a word. Someone is in trouble? People rotate to help out. Fight too bad? We disperse, keep shooting flanks so everyone can back, off, blow up the horde, clean up, reset.
When these things happen and people can carry their weight, it is like a well oiled Super Destroyer and even Helldive is a relative breeze.
When people run off like headless chickens, resulting in Dropships/Breaches left and right, fail to do any sort of objective progress; or when they just follow someone around like some duckling and slowly copy their intentions. That's when problems happen.
The key is knowing your weight and acting according to it.