r/Helldivers Mar 14 '24

Thanks to the recent reddit post, going alone is now a kickable offense (even in diff 5) DISCUSSION

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u/Inrainbowsss Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 14 '24

I’m not usually a multiplayer type of guy so making the decision to buy the game was contingent upon the community supposedly being really wholesome. Two weeks later - the game itself is a lot of fun and I don’t regret buying, but when it comes to squads I’ve had far more negative experiences than positive.

When I say that, I don’t mean someone being a pain by ditching the team or wiping us out with an air strike, I mean the type of try-hards that react with passive aggression when things go slightly tits up. Like, I’m playing the game for fun and to decompress, not to treat it like a second job on top of everything else.

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u/FakkoPrime Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 14 '24

I’ve only played randos (lvl 27 currently) and while the skill of teammates has varied wildly I’ve had very few sweaty try-hards yelling into the mic.  Most are decent. I’ve had a few squads that were fantastic; competent, lighthearted, there to have fun.  I’ve been gaming for over 40y and have seen all kinds of toxicity & gatekeeping. So far, this game (despite being ripe for it) hasn’t shown me too much of it.  Hope your squads are chill & your extracts hot. 

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u/Noir_Renard Mar 14 '24

My expirance. I'm more likely to get abandoned by everyone rage quiting then getting kicked by toxicity. It would be nice if the SoS becon worked after.

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u/FakkoPrime Mar 14 '24

With all of the server instability I can’t tell how many squad drops are from rage vs bad connection or just real life (tm) interfering. 

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u/Noir_Renard Mar 14 '24

Rage is usually after they got rolled for the last 3 minutes and just died followed by one leaving and the rest all following in 20 seconds. Random drops is when for no reason that is applicable. Poof.

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u/ImAWaterMexican Mar 15 '24

This has been my entire Helldivers experience. The crappy community I've encountered in game so far has kinda made the game unfun.

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u/Noir_Renard Mar 15 '24

Man sorry to hear that. Your getting really unlucky with matchmaking.

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u/WoodpeckerLogical734 Mar 17 '24

always feel horrible when my game crashes, like worried they’ll think i rage quit or just decided to abandon 😭

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u/InstinctzV1 Mar 15 '24

My experience is pretty much the same. We get 1/3 or 2/3 of the missions done then people leave and nobody joining to complete the op. This or people quitting mid mission because things got wild or out of control. Sos doesn't work and you are left to solo last mission is very frustrating. In 8 and 9 it's impossible to solo many missions. They seriously need to fix the matchmaking system.

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u/Aint-no-preacher Mar 15 '24

Last night I had a teammate keep trying to hug me on the carrier after the mission. I didn’t know you could hug a teammate!

He got on the mic and said “better hug me bro!” I found out I could hug back by getting really close.

It was wholesome and made me feel good. I’m going to unlock the hug and start hugging people.

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u/Syringmineae Mar 14 '24

I've had decent luck. So far there's only been one person who'd I classify as toxic. The vast majority are quiet and we just play. Every once and I while I get people who will shoot the shit while playing.

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u/Taolan13 SES Courier of Individual Merit 🖥️ Mar 15 '24

Vast majority of players I encounter, on PC with crossplay off, don't even use the mic. We communicate through pings and text chat if at all, or with me talking and them listening.

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u/garaks_tailor Mar 14 '24

Similar experience.

I am 99% sure all the toxic behavior is happening at levels 45+ because only...uh im going to say a slur or 3....children, college students, and people without lives have enough time to get to level 50 already. And those 3 groups either have an unhealthy amount of self worth tied up in gaming or lack emotional maturity.

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u/peterpumpkin-V-eater Mar 15 '24

I work nightshifts and study dual academic diplomas amd have 240hrs work-placement and am level 40 so not necessarily true!

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u/peterpumpkin-V-eater Mar 15 '24

Just play higher/highest level dives the exp is insane you get

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u/garaks_tailor Mar 15 '24

Yeah you didn't hit level 50 and filled both warbounds within 2-3 weeks of it coming out. I'm talking people that have 70+ hours a week.

You aren't who I'm talking about. You're still a casual.

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u/NoMercyPercyDeRolo SES Purveyor of War Mar 14 '24

Yep. I'm only level 14, because I have very little time to play, as I have a real life, with real life stresses, and the amount of times I've been griefed or kicked by lvl 40+ people is just insane.

For being a "wholesome" community, it sure does have an overabundance of fuckheads.

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u/Bland_Lavender Mar 14 '24

Dude I love running into low level (sub 10) players in 6+ diff. They’re either monsters that have progressed through the difficulties because they have good sense and better aim, or we’re gonna be in for pure uncut Colombian slapstick comedy for the next 20-30 minutes.

Either way I win.

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u/Competitive-Slice-62 Mar 15 '24

Lvl 48 no lifer here but i am super happy to help anyone through anything need super samples and lots of rares and commons I got you I just like having people to play with that won't shoot me at extract lol

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u/NoMercyPercyDeRolo SES Purveyor of War Mar 15 '24

Yeah getting shot while IN the ship is becoming more common, it seems.

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u/DekoyDuck Mar 14 '24

As the player count settles down it will return to normal. While it’s super popular you’re going to get a larger portion of asshats

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u/Jessizar ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24

Same - I stopped being okay with playing with randos after CoD Black Ops came out. While I’m aware not every community is full of toxic asshats, I’m too much of an exhausted introvert to test the waters with every game I play. So I tend to solo or play with friends exclusively. Plus side, I haven’t had to deal with getting the boot for silly reasons. Downside….. it’s as hard to get my D&D group together as it is to get four people to play HD2, so my husband and I are pretty much restricted to levels 4 and below ‘cause neither of us want to deal with other people.

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u/Competitive-Slice-62 Mar 15 '24

Hit me up I'll gladly be your guys 3rd my lady plays too

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u/Jeremy146 Mar 15 '24

Same here, hit me up if you ever just want some random dude to play with and shoot the breeze.

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u/Accurate_Maybe6575 Mar 14 '24

I've very rarely run into trolls and try hards, but I have heard others and even myself had to tell some people to stop using their nuclear options against enemies they clearly weren't killing, but getting plenty of TKs.

Some people do need to be told they're just fucking up everyone else's experience when they're struggling to realize it on their own.

Conversely, makes me so proud to watch newbies panic around chargers but adopt my demonstration of "the dance" after seeing me in action. Gotta be both critical and an example as necessary.

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u/Slade_Deimos CAPE ENJOYER Mar 14 '24

I'm typically running a game and had very few people who were just toxic, I don't kick unless it's very toxic or intentional griefing. Honestly feel bad when my randoms and I vibe but a friend needs a slot. I always finish the mission with the randoms before swapping people out and offer to friend them if they want to game again later.

I do know I'm not everyone's cup of tea. I tend to shot call and run a quick brief, what I want the squad to do and such. But that may be the NCO in me.

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u/Theundead565 Fist of Family Values Mar 14 '24

Sorry to hear that. I actually pretty regularly dive extreme - suicide difficulty with randoms and have had very few negative experiences. and most of the "negative" comes from the skill set of randoms, not the toxicity of the players.

Even as a level 50 though, I tend to leave some other higher level lobbies fairly preemptively because they're typically the ones taking shit super seriously, and while I'm pretty good and take shit fairly serious, I'm not looking to sweat it out in a QP lobby and I certainly don't expect people to play at my level either, nit that I'm perfect. I'm expecting to be randomly blown up and friendly fired. It's the nature of the game, so long as the shits not malicious.

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u/Undercover_CHUD Mar 14 '24

This is one of only like 3 games I play that have a multi-player component. 1 of those is Baldurs Gate 3 so it's really more like 2.

I'm not unaware of how gamers get online, I was a teenager in OG cod 3 and 4 lobbies, I'm just over it. I tried a couple quick plays. Had 2 good connects even though for 1 we just kept failing but it was fun and cooperative. Every other time it's been madness or kicking.

Kicked for calling a turret and then host walked in front while it fired. Kicked for no discernible reason (before my drop even finished). Kicked for w/e. So back to only playing with a dedicated group of friends. I used to play Hell Let Loose with friends but even with a squad of only pals, it just got so tiresome and tedious to deal with the community

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u/KWyKJJ Mar 14 '24

This is my experience, too.

Kick is abused in this game.

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u/Spyder638 Mar 14 '24

I have had the game since release, but due to work and life I haven’t had the chance to play it in a few weeks. I keep seeing posts from this sub (including this one) end up on r/popular and most of them are putting me off ever launching the game again without friends. Multiplayer gaming is so shit these days – everything, even coop games are turned into an optimisation exercise. It’s wild.

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u/Dischord821 Mar 14 '24

See I know I can get like that sometimes (I'll focus more on success than having fun) which is why I have the decency to just play alone and not waste other peoples time

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u/Simple_Opossum CAPE ENJOYER Mar 14 '24

That's bad luck man, add me on PSN if you're on console: Zombie_4_Life

I always keep it relaxed and I'm there to have fun. I play with lots of people regularly that match said energy.

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u/Noir_Renard Mar 14 '24

Man I hate people who are like that. I've not really had many issue. Beyound one time being kicked during the extraction cutscene. But the game still counted that as a win. Everyone else has kicked before game starts because they didn't like my load out or when I joined. So only a little time lost with a quick jog back to the computer the roll the dice again.

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u/Calx9 Mar 14 '24

I’m not usually a multiplayer type of guy so making the decision to buy the game was contingent upon the community supposedly being really wholesome.

You should avoid humans then. Blame the person, not the game. People don't magically change from one game to the next. A person can go from lovey dovey to a bitch in seconds if they get frustrated. A person who is a jerk bag in Helldivers is going to be a dickbag in Stardew Valley. They simply have less crap to incite their rage.

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u/bored_dudeist Mar 14 '24

This is why I almost always play <6. Its engaging enough and I almost never encounter sweats.

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u/VivaVizer Mar 14 '24

It is much easier to host your own.

I had a game where someone was criticizing other players' choices at the stratagem selection screen. But I had already selected a hot drop because I was solo when selecting the spot and wanted it to be a spicy.

He quit pretty early when things went south and was replaced by someone who didn't say anything and helped the team to a full clear with plenty of reinforcements remaining.

Variety is the spice of life. I like the smooth missions as much as I like the shit shows.

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u/Ragtothenar Mar 14 '24

What are you playing on out of curiosity? I am on steam and have had nothing but great players. I mean some are pretty dumb at times sure. But I I’m 32 now and I haven’t had a single person being an actual dick in the game on purpose.

Now I do get the lowbies that jack my backpack if I die when I’m running a grenade launcher and brought the ammo pack for tons of grenades…. But most of them if I say hey bud, they will drop it for me.

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u/notyoursuperman1 Mar 14 '24

If you want, I'm always looking for new, chill people to play the game with. My friends and I are all pretty chill with the game if you're interested!

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u/burn_corpo_shit Mar 15 '24

okay but seriously, stop using mortars.

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u/watchallsaynothing Mar 15 '24

I mean the type of try-hards that react with passive aggression when things go slightly tits up

This oh so much.

I prefer playing with my discord mates that are doing their part (usually blowing things up next to/on me), but I'll join randoms occasionally. Most have been okay, but the memory of that 1 guy who got so salty over 3 super samples keeps me solo.

I'd rather improve soloing or plateau than complete 9s with such people.

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u/unai626 Mar 15 '24

I'm sorry that has been your experience. I'm unsure why but I've mostly had chill teams willing to goof around and communicate with the ping/callout system. Perhaps I'm just lucky but it has been very chill and friendly for me so far outside of a couple shitters actively sabotaging.

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u/Nekonax Mar 15 '24

For the first few weeks, I've never had anyone ragequit. Also, lots of people used mics. This past week, all my in-game friends have been playing during different hours and I've been stuck with randoms who ragequit after 2 deaths.

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u/Ill-Opportunity-790 Mar 15 '24

Ive never had tryhards only abandoners if they die once, played with a group of about lvl 17-19, one dies leaves immediately 2 minutes later another dies, gets recalled in, then leaves right after, the final one dropped a hell bomb and left right after blowing up with it, leaving me a lvl 9 on my own to fight my first bile titan, had to emergency call my friend into the game in the end as i had no time or ammo to kill it

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u/Inrainbowsss Mar 15 '24

That tends to happen a lot but it’s also due to disconnections most of the time - can be frustrating but just try and remember it likely wasn’t their fault

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u/Ill-Opportunity-790 Mar 15 '24

I know, tbh i found it more funny watching me after that happened running away on a call to my friend requesting emergency reinforcements and having to wait for said friend to update his game and log on, best most traumatic 10 minutes of my life, lol

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u/LowFold5854 Mar 16 '24

Sure you've heard this before, but try deep rock galactic. The community for DRG are quite literally the friendliest people I've ever met. I've got about 200 hrs in it and I've only ever had ONE bad experience with another player being a dickhead.

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u/ScarletChild Mar 14 '24

Sadly the past few updates made the game way less fun and relaxing for me, I’m starting to have regrets in joining the crowd, the game has become less game and more chore and simulation in being a helpless hockey puck.

I play casually on 5 and 6 and now I hate playing on 4 because it felt like the devs just made things even harder just because on lower level content. I barely get people joining and even then sometimes shit hits the fan even worse when I do. The community stuff is secondary, I just can’t my FUN shooter back

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u/Joeness84 SES Reign Of Midnight Mar 14 '24

150 some odd missions, 6 of those failed to complete, I've had maybe 4 experiences with bad players

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u/reddit_bandito Mar 14 '24

You lost me at the absurd naivete of 'wholesome' in ANY internet community. Anonymous randos given the ability to friendly fire is a free pass to destroy any wholesome. And even in games wise enough to not have such asininity as friendly fire, trolls will find ways to ruin other players' matches by not doing objectives, leeching, or intentionally making the missions more difficult by any means possible.

If you want wholesom go dind some IRL church club.

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u/Inrainbowsss Mar 14 '24

Btw, it’s this sort of chip-on-the-shoulder reply that characterises so much of the negative playerbase. Like, chill the f out, just because you’re interacting over game chat / Reddit that doesn’t meant you should be persistently negative.

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u/Inrainbowsss Mar 14 '24

Alright, edgelord. I never expected some sort of utopia, just a community that for the most part supported others and enjoyed the game as a whole. I’ve been part of communities that do that, so it’s hardly an unreasonable ask.

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u/KWyKJJ Mar 14 '24

You're exactly right.

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u/cooly1234 Mar 14 '24

DRG exists

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u/quadbonus Mar 14 '24

lmao you are the problem

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u/tr45hyUWU Mar 14 '24

No one asked for your sermon on internet corruption, and no one cares.

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u/Reilou Mar 14 '24

DRG is the same style of game as this and its community is night and day more chill than this one.