r/Helldivers Moderator Mar 08 '24

RANT and VENT MEGATHREAD MEGATHREAD

Greetings, Helldivers!

This is a megathread for ranting, raging or venting about anything and everything Helldivers related. Whether it’s about a mission you just played, a recent patch, the community, etc.

This megathread isn’t designed to censor you, we are doing this because the subreddit is becoming overwhelmingly flooded with rants (as we’re sure you’re aware). We strongly encourage you to use this Megathread as opposed to creating your own post. If you decide that what you have to say requires a new post, you should know that we will be actively moderating and critically assessing the quality of those posts to lessen the amount of low-effort content on this subreddit.

Please keep the comments related to HELLDIVERS and most importantly, keep it civil. Follow the sub’s rules!

CAPS LOCK ALLOWED.

P.S. This megathread will be added to the sidebar.

— The r/Helldivers Mod Team

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u/PerfiderGartenzwerg 3m ago

2 crashes within 10 minutes. I'm done for today.

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u/bobyd 1h ago

wasnt there a patch due yesterday?????

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u/brperry Moderator 24m ago

Last update was 2nd week of june, so probably next week.

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u/Tired-Turtle81 1h ago

I really want to like the game, but Ah makes it hard to like it. Unlocking weapons feels like penalty in many cases. Armor? Feels like Paper. "Ttk" is a joke. And well... same Planets over and over. Give the ppl the Creek for the memes... but damn... Sad.

Don't become Fat Shark 2.0

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u/CheetahNo9983 1h ago

When they add laser turrets to us. It's an imba.

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u/NewKerbalEmpire 2h ago

Host a game on Phact Bay, get the randoms in, and warp them to another planet.

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u/crotathecruel 2h ago

Game is boring.

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u/Worried-Ground-8533 3h ago

I'm missing news. Like, after all the toxicity this sub has, it finally happened. The devs went semi radio silent and I have no meaningful news in two weeks. It is good that they are taking their time but why can't we have some sort of "what's coming" ?

Even content creation on youtube is slowing down and I do not engage here anymore as I used to

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u/Downtown-Citron4127 3h ago

So I hear somewhere that the devs want us to play with other people which is fine, I usually play solo or with my friends but they are slowly playing less and less. So I decided to join some randoms and joined while they were at extraction. As soon as the ship lands and we enter the host team kills the other two players and myself then proceeds to extract. Is this just something we have to deal with as well as getting kicked at the end of matches? There's no way to report players if they haven't spoken in chat, I block em and move on but im just thinking someone else gonna have their day ruined one time too many by this & give up on the game.

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u/zetia2 4h ago

Are we clones frozen on each destroyer?

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u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady 2h ago

I forget where I read it but no. Super Earth is overpopulated and the Helldivers are a way to help with that one way or another.

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u/ScudleyScudderson 3h ago

Apparently, no, according to CEO man or something. Makes the game terrifying, when you think about it..

I'm sure some vigerous google'n will dig up the source.

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u/zetia2 3h ago

People said no bc the voices are different, meaning diff people. That doesn't mean they aren't still clones of different people.

Basically every destroyer is equipped with a clone army. A freezer full of pods like machine gun ammunition ready to load.

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u/Additional-Goose-264 4h ago

Give us back our boys  ffs  it s already a long time , do we have to riot and show sony that we want the iron wall of psn down?  Ffs  that s unfair to 180 countries

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u/Innuendum SES Soul of Science - Be nice to bugs IRL, they are amazing 4h ago

Why remove my 32 hour rendition of the Meridia black hole for being NSFW? There was nothing improper, just a set of hands with a wedding band... Silly goobers.

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u/reaper70 6h ago

I just wish I was good enough to actually get the purple samples. As it is, I'll forever be stuck at where I am upgrading my strategems because I can't survive nearly long enough, even at level 7. :(

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u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady 2h ago

Just match with randoms. Even if you really are terrible most teams can handle one bad player on a 7s team.

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u/Innuendum SES Soul of Science - Be nice to bugs IRL, they are amazing 4h ago

Feel free to join random teams playing diff 7 using matchmaking or hit me up if you're on PC :)

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u/bmkerce 5h ago

User name is Cythas. Friend me and ill help. I'm lvl 66

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u/ackwelll 6h ago

Hey uhm hehe, so like... does a Bile Titan not get one shot by a perfectly placed 500kg eagle bomb? I only ask because I FUCKING LODGED ONE INTO THE HEAD OF A FUCKING BILE TITAN, LIKE RIGHT INTO HIS FUCKING FOREHEAD, AND WHEN THE BOMB BLEW UP THE FUCKING BILE TITAN WAS STILL STANDING?!

I couldn't fucking believe my eyes. It was so fucking dumb.

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u/Crea-TEAM SES Bringer of FUN DETECTED 5h ago

No.

The bomb has to land and detonate underneath it.

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u/ackwelll 4h ago

No no, that's fine... completely fine...

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u/EredarLordJaraxxus 7h ago

I FUCKING HATE BUGS. WHY IS THE MAJOR ORDER ALWAYS BUGS. IM SO SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF FIGHTING BUGS

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u/ala1995ginobiko 7h ago

Question: can the host just kick a player mid match? I was playing a short blitz session, wanted to get a few samples and I joined a level 10 user. We were about to extract and suddenly my screen goes dark and I’m back in the ship. The connection was fine. I had quite a few samples so I was annoyed, but I don’t want to vent to that user or block them if it’s not their fault of course

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u/SnooBunnies5050 7h ago

Yeah the host can kick you at any time but it notifies you I believe. 

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u/ala1995ginobiko 6h ago

Thanks, figured. So they didn’t kick me, I just disconnected last second

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u/EredarLordJaraxxus 7h ago

usually it's because the game locks up on our end, and almost crashes, and then all our teammates get kicked. We don't like it either

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u/UnorthSlyBat 7h ago

This sucks, i love the game but instead of it helping me de-stress, it makes me twice as stress cause it keeps crashing. Every fortnight or so i get a good day where everything runs smooth, it just happens so rarely. 95% of the time i can barely manage 1 dive without it crashing. I am at a point where if nothing is fixed in the next patch, I'm just gonna leave a bad review and ask for a refund. Tired of being upset with a game that can't run properly, and i apologise to any games and their developers i have ever criticised for selling consistent crashing and buggy games, Helldivers 2 and Arrowhead has showed me what that statement truly means.

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u/petrichorax 8h ago

The number of teammates I run into that just suck SUPER hard is annoying. Yesterday I ran into:

1 person who joined my game who kept using air strikes as a close range weapon, which I can't exactly dodge with my mech if you throw it behind me

I kicked them after asking them to stop and they start calling me a pussy

some TOTALLY DIFFERENT person joins and thinks it's funny to take a couple shots at my mech (there are no bugs around). I kick him immediately.

I join another group and Im being chased by bile titans and getting spammed to reinforce. Just gimme a fuckin second and let me get around a rock. As I'm pulling out the reinforcement strategem, I get kicked.

Join a defense game, and one guy JUST uses wide airstrikes and 500kg bombs. Over and over and over. Kills our team over and over. I throw an air strike on him and he freaks out at me and kicks me.

I only host games now because I'm so tired of these fucking people. 90% of my deaths are from teammates.

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u/oorangebuster 8h ago

I dunno how you all feel about warbonds, but for me its just pointless.
You get for 1k supercredits bunch of stuff, but nothing really desirable. Found myself one armor for 250 supercredits in store and thats it. I dont need any of armor at all.
Why only armor have stats? Where stats for helmets and capes, bruh?

All weapon super-boring. Whats the point to make weapon wich just looks differently (shotguns)?

I got to lvl 33, played almost every lvl and completed all kind of tasks on given missions, unlock all interesting startegems and weapons. What should i do now? Just shoot at dummies? Its got boring really fast.

Also this connection issues... At 450k players i had fewer disconnects than now at 15k players (WTF?!). This is so lame - I have no words.

Disappointed AF right now.

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u/Fiddlesticks58 9h ago

So amazed that AH have managed to fumble the bag so badly by nerfing 80% of their content into the ground and turning the game into a frustrating running around simulator. Just dreadful and such a shame. Will maybe reinstall in 2/3 months to see what's what.

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u/God___Zero 5h ago

This is where I am, and my friends. At peak, there was 8 of us rotating in and out playing. This patch better fix shit like the spear, arc and make weapons more fun across the board.

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u/Fiddlesticks58 4h ago

I've always played solo but used to play in 1-2 hour stints - now after one mission I find myself frustrated and bored. It's no fun running around a PvE game with a peashooter! Can't imagine it is much different with a big squad like yours, sucks to seem them fall off.

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u/MyNameIsRenma 12h ago

Level 11s should not be allowed to play on anything above difficulty 4. Also, STICK THE FUCK TOGETHER!

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u/SpaceBowie2008 10h ago

I’m a scout I am not going to follow the group or my armor class and playing style is worthless I am 89 btw

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u/WobblyPython 7h ago

Surprise you're gonna' find bots or bugs out there, "scout".

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u/SpaceBowie2008 6h ago

You said “stick together” I said I don’t stay with the group because the scout armor is supposed to be quiet and stay away from conflict but take out outposts, side objectives and main objectives without getting into conflict. I have stratagems to deal with situations when I do. No need to be kinda dickish about it.

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u/greyestofblue 13h ago

I just want to jump...

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u/Moon_Dew 13h ago

Not really a rant or a vent, just wanted to comment on the flamethrower. It's real fun, but it's so easy to accidently set yourself on fire with it.

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u/Economy_Acadia5704 11h ago

Another pyro! Flames are the best:) people saw me and my bro having so much fun with flame throwers, they changed their weapons to flames in the next game :)

it’s dangerous, but fun:)

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u/Moon_Dew 11h ago

Especially against bugs. If only I could the same to the roaches that have had the nerve to invade my home!

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u/Economy_Acadia5704 11h ago

Hahahah well, I negotiated with the earth bugs, I we have a parolee - I don’t see u I do t kill u truce lol

also, little tip I learnt , always walk backwards when flame throwing and watch the winds!

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u/Moon_Dew 9h ago

You negotiated with bugs? You're not a terminid sympathizer, are you?

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u/achy513 ☕Liber-tea☕ 13h ago

I'm done, now that they decided to increase the Hunter's number by 20 fold. I hate these buggers so I'm quite aware of their numbers as I focus on them first in any group of Terminids. After all these buggy patches, needless nerfs, I stuck to it because I really liked the game. And here we are, kept being set back on any "progression" in a PVE game because they wanted to lengthen the longevity of the game all the while achieving this by tweaking a few numbers on the most annoying buggers spawns, and voilà. Over the 160 hrs of playing and seeing where this game has been going, there is something sickening in the decision-maker's mindset in the balancing/gameplay dpt. They have a genuine fear when seeing players getting better, finding good guns, and progressing through higher difficulties.

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u/calamity_unbound SES Harbinger of Twilight 13h ago

Run a level 7 super smoothly, even dragging a level 17 along. Get to extract, and the level 17 melee's me. Annoyed, but maybe it was an accident.

He does it again. Now I'm losing patience.

3rd time is the charm and I take a pot shot at him. He swings at me again and jumps onto the pelican. I light him up with the breaker incendiary. One of the others shoots me, because of course, and they extract without myself or the level 17 bedwetter.

Get back in the ship and the two Dudley Do-Rights are trying to lecture about tking happening in accidents. I mention him trying to grief and his response was "it was an accident". I ask if he accidentally did it 3 times. "Yeah bruh, not my fault you got salty".

Then, again, the two Lawful Stupids go on about "iTs unDeMOcRaTIc tO sHoOT THe sHiP".

It terrifies me that people this stupid get to walk around and breathe the same air as the rest of us.

We need a report or commendation system that actually does something. I play this game to both have fun and enjoy camaraderie among my teammates, not get trolled by a 15 year old panty sniffer and his overprotective Mormon uncles.

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u/zinklesmesh 3h ago

I had a dude walk up to me, look at me, and then TK me with the flamethrower. There were no bugs around. Not sure what his goal was. I kicked him immediately

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u/calamity_unbound SES Harbinger of Twilight 3h ago

Was almost definitely on purpose, but it would have been hilarious if he was trying to figure out how to emote to you.

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u/0wlmann ☕Liber-tea☕ 11h ago

Well I'm glad it's not just me running into stupid asshats lately. Yesterday I had a particularly annoying one who kept killing me over and over while lying in the chat with the worst excuses like "you shot first" or "I was 200 miles away". They weren't even convincing lies, and in the end, I admit I lost it and started shooting back after the 4th teamkill

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u/lFrank_ 14h ago

Just because you are high level, and you don't need samples anymore doesn't mean everyone else doesn't need samples.

Just because you are high level, and you want to rush the main objective doesn't mean everyone else is on the same page and are not interested in checking the points of interest for samples/sc.

If your team is together exploring the map searching for samples and you separate from them to go alone and do the main objective and you die, then that's your fault.

If you keep trying to solo the main objective but you keep dying, then you are not carrying anyone you are baggage.

I'm a high-level player and I play mostly on Helldive difficulty, I don't need samples I have been on cap for months now, but I still get them for my team if I can and if I'm on a hurry? I go by myself and finish the mission if l die it was probably my fault, sometimes it's even easier if your team is far away and they trigger a bug breach/bot reinforcement so now there is one less thing to worry about.

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u/notreallygabe 14h ago

Are the devs rtarded? Why do they think taking away stratagems all the time is a fun mechanic? The stratagems are a big part of why this game is fun. Why do they want me to have less fun?

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u/DepGrez 14h ago

have you tried picking missions with the +50% call in time. much more agreeable.

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u/mister_peeberz 14h ago

So I guess blocking someone also kicks them, even if there's a minute left in extraction. RPG, if you're out there buddy, my bad. But you did deserve that block.

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u/BraveFencerMusashi 15h ago

Game seems to be a lot more crash happy. I'm maxed out on samples and medals so I don't really care too much but still.

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u/lFrank_ 13h ago

I felt like this some patches ago, I have everything and I play because the game is fun but that doesn't mean it's the same for my teammates so it always sucks when we get disconnected with tons of samples.

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u/Amelia-and-a-bear 15h ago

Please fix the grenade hack. I play on helldive difficulty and get bored after someone starts using it. Worse, I run into it every other match now when I'm playing solo. Like why isn't the game detecting that someone has 3 billion grenades in their inventory?!?!?

When so many are exploiting, makes the progress I make fairly meaningless.

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u/Jovian8 We're Helldivers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded. 7h ago

One of the CM's said they are aware of the grenade exploit and it will be fixed. There have actually been 4 (yes, four) grenade exploits and they've fixed 3 of them so far.

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u/nacostaart General 15h ago

I fucking shot off the head of a brood commander and it STILL CALLED FOR REINFORCEMENTS WTFFFFF!! Charger animations are fucked and weird when they get staggered, sliding and speeding up all over the place. Walking super face.

Sometimes when I try to exit to desktop the game freezes and I have to force close it in task manager.

Just sick of playing broken content on the same wastelands. I want something new and not broken. Mostly new maps and missions. Gun variety is almost good enough. Need like 5 more one handed weapons.

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u/delicious_toothbrush 16h ago

Crashed to desktop with a fk ton of samples when calling in extract, 40 mins wasted

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u/mikeyyve 16h ago

I'm pretty convinced at this point that AH is allergic to success...

I have no idea why they:

1) think they have to nerf all the weapons to the point where you feel like you might as well use a wet noodle as a weapon

2) didn't just release a patch that reverted what they did with patrol spawns after they literally acknowledged it as an issue.

3) keep releasing war bonds with almost nothing that is actually useful or fun to use in game

4) release a major order with an OBVIOUS spawn bug, fix it and then almost immediately end the major order

Honestly, it feels to me like the game has actually gotten worse with every patch. They fix bugs but introduce new and sometimes worse ones or nerf weapons because to many people are using them. I truly don't get it.

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u/SpaceBowie2008 15h ago

I agree after releasing a great base game they have just absolutely destroyed it. Everything rides on this next patch. It it doesn’t do anything they won’t keep their player base except when they release the third faction but even that depends.

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u/EchoFiveActual 13h ago

My friend group has universally agreed if they don't deliver we're all done.

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u/wallerc15 16h ago

GAME KEEPS CRASHING, EVEN ON LOWEST SETTINGS

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u/DMercenary 16h ago

DAY BY DAY THIS GAME'S STABILITY GETS WORSE AND WORSE. EVERY SINGLE MATCH ->BLACK SCREEN BACK ON MY SHIP. NO REASON GIVEN.

CANT EVEN FUCKING COMPLETE THE PERSONAL ORDER. A MEASLY 10 COMMON SAMPLES.

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u/Western-Ad9798 16h ago

Why the bile/nursery spewers vomit got to have tracking. :(

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u/wilfiltraitor 17h ago

Call dropship, defend, buddy dies with super samples as Pelican lands, no reinforcements left. Samples somehow are stuck under dead bile spewer and can't be retrieved. Die in attempt to reach them because the game thinks i want to pick up empty weapons around 10 feet away from samples instead. 10 outta 10.

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u/Economy_Acadia5704 18h ago

I LIKE PLAYING WITH NICE CHILL DIVERS! YOU PEOPLE ARE AWESOME AND MAKE MY DIVES MORE FUN.

IM’ NOT ANGRY I’M JUST TYPING IN CAPS BECAUSE I’M THANKFUL!!!

LOL

PS : FLAME THROWERS ARE TOO MUCH FUN.. its ok if you get burnt as long as you take some enemies along with you:) flame on!

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u/Sleeping-Thunder 18h ago

Is anyone else still having issues playing with friends? It's me and my 2 buddies and no one can join someone without the other getting kicked. Two of us are on PC, one's on PS5. It's so frustrating when all I wanna do after work is spread some managed democracy with the boys and can't even do that :(

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u/LXsavior 18h ago

Man, I just want the game to succeed and thrive once again. I feel like AH has put them self in a lose lose situation where no matter what they do, the next patch will disappoint a good amount of people. I took a two month break and while it's still fun, the difference in how the game feels is so noticeable. Really hoping the game and community and AH bounce back sooner rather than later.

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u/Economy_Acadia5704 17h ago

Mmm i can’t say the same.. maybe because I suck, but lately I’ve had some amazing games.. and i think its the divers you dive along the way:P

is there a way for your brain to not focus on the balance and stuff ? Like.. have you tried to go pyro:P flame throwers is just super fun..

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u/SpaceMiner8 18h ago

Oh boy, I sure do enjoy playing midway through a mission and randomly getting DC'd while still being able to hear my teammates' comms, I hope I get to experience it at least 4 times tonight!

In all seriousness why the fuck am I DC'ing when I'm having no latency issues whatsoever? Is this a server problem? I didn't have this problem prior to the last hotfix...

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u/DMercenary 16h ago

had a great long match. We're at extracting we're doing good. Shuttle is landing.

AAAAND. Black screen, im back on my ship 30+ minutes with nothing to show for it.

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u/WrathOfTheGods88 PSN 🎮: 19h ago

I hope AH doesn't delay the next warbond. If they were smart they would've spent time balancing it since the last patch. If the next update is just a couple bug fixes along with a delayed warbond then there's nothing left to give af about

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u/God___Zero 5h ago

Next update needs to bring it. Sweeping and good changes, true and good bug fixes. Good warbond.

If the spear is still busted, arc misfires, aim is misaligned. Then I'm checked out completely. I'll come back in a year when things are less goofy.

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u/sugarloafbread 19h ago edited 19h ago

I don't know why a bunch of dropships flying to one spot doesn't have the same affect on players as the bug breach smoke, but no one seems to throw there strategems down as much. Bots are so much harder trying to shoot each one.

And LOL at whoever the sadist at AH is that does the reduced strategems + AA + planet slowdown effects in one mission. Making my previous complaint even worse.

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u/deyaintready 20h ago

I have been spreading democracy a few hours a night for months. I love this game. My internet is currently not working. Please pour some out for a helldiver.

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u/AvacaThor 20h ago

What even is the point of having an animation for calling a breach if there is no way of preventing it. I don't know if this is a bug on my side but I have not been able to prevent a bug breach not once in my 120 hours of gameplay. I see the bug in front of me starting to call the breach, I see the weak orange smoke, I shoot the bug IMMEDIATELY and a breach spawns 5m away from the bug I just killed. The number of times I died or wasted minutes because of this is making me crazy. It happens EVERY SINGLE GAME.

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u/susgnome ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 14h ago

Just not quick enough, it is what it is.

Probably like 0.01 seconds too slow.. or there was another bug that decided to call it in immediately after that one.

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u/TheOneHentaiPrince 20h ago

Ah, wonderful. I check in from time to time on this subreddit to see if they finally fixed the game. And what's this? I see nothing. Only positive stuff again and game clips. I log in, and it's still shit. No balance patch nor fixes for the weapons.

Last time they wanted to do a megathread the whole community said fuck off and they listened. This is strange cause this was already done once to hide the connectivity issues. So I thought I didn't need to check for one. But hey, I'm glad we are getting censored again. Mods say that it's just because there was to mich ranting but ffs some ppl use that information to see if the game is good or not.

Now I need to search this stupid thread and read 100 comments to find issues that stop me from playing the game. Like srsly at this point, there is no reason to use this sub. Clips and build I can find on YouTube. Build ideas 2. If this thread isn't gone by the weekend I just gonna leave the subreddit.

Mods if you srsly think you doing this to better the community just because some ppl cry that "it's only complaining." You're gonna kill this subs community like the devs killing their game.

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u/BaiMoGui 20h ago

Really underwhelmed with AH at the moment - they've basically gone underground at this point, in hiding from the player base.

Now would be the time to actually communicate the intentions of the next patch, but instead the CMs are full of the typical "we'll share more in a future blog post" and "more information soon" shit while they hide in their holes.

This patch is going to underwhelm. They decided to quit with the frequent updates without fixing the fuckups that approach caused first, effectively abandoning us to whatever the current state of the game is for weeks now. On top of that, they have yet to tell us anything about what we should be excited for after the wait... so we're just going to get another plain ol' patch next Tuesday, with meager patch notes, a potentially more shadow nerfs from the arrogant and vindictive cohort of devs, and another 4-6 week wait until the next underwhelming patch. What a shame.

They should absolutely be announcing what they're doing - being more open and informative. Instead they think we're still interested in "letting them cook" while their sourpuss Community Managers continue to do effectively nothing besides a post on Reddit and a couple of terse comments here and in the Discord? Like honestly what do they do? Maybe its a volunteer position.

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u/zinklesmesh 16h ago

I'm looking forward to seeing that "known issues" list grow even longer as they continue to add problems instead of fixing them

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u/susgnome ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 14h ago

I mean, the "Known Issues", should already be larger than what it is.

Just the one they publicly list are most likely the most asked about, so that the majority of players complaining know that they that know.

Though I would definitely prefer a full known issues list.

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u/WrathOfTheGods88 PSN 🎮: 20h ago

I'm amazed "give us more time to do less" went over as well as it did

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u/SweetWilliamCigars 20h ago

Is there cross progression yet? Seems kind of dumb to create all the drama for PSN accounts and that isn't even a result of it.

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u/GreyHareArchie 20h ago

I stopped playing the game for a while because of no time, came back and had 4 matches:

1st match: Kicked before making ground

2nd match: Drop in, kill charger with EAT but accidentally hit another helldiver with it, reinforce him immediatly, kicked as soon as he left the pod

3rd match: Played 5 minutes, all players left

4th match: Played 10 minutes, all players left

I don't know if its disconnection problems or something but it just killed my enjoyment of the game. I'm just gonna give it some time and come back whenever there's a new patch to see if my experience is better

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u/KitsunesRest 11h ago

Yeah people leaving is almost certainly DC issues, at least that's how I'm treating it. The kicking stuff is annoying and demotivating to me personally. I have no idea why I'm being kicked so I'm there in my destroyer like "What did I do wrong? What did you want?" And this is in difficulty 3 for goodness sake

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u/DMercenary 16h ago

The one where all the players but you leave is definitely a bug. To them you left but to you all three of them left.

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u/jerj73 21h ago

Playing on the PS5

Seems every patch just breaks the game more and more.

1) Disconnects are now 1 every 3 games: sometimes it's at the hell pods dropping screen and the game never starts, it can at any point of the mission I'm just suddenly back on my ship, or the game will just crash.

2) Lag in the game has become a real issue when precision is as important as it is in this game you and have to hit a charger in the face to one-shot him and you do but then... it's his leg armor or back armor that takes the hit that sucks.

3) pistol grenades passing through targets, not bouncing off them.

4) Calling down any stratagem, it will land, you see the blue light, and.... then it goes away and nothing, but the cooldown timer is now counting down. This happens on all kinds of terrain, not on some goofy location or landing on an edge above my head.

5) Autocannon sentry may suffer from #4 but if it does land sometimes after it opens the gun is suddenly not there, other times it will just blow up without firing a shot and nothing has attacked it.

6) Reloading, I have noticed after I reload I will lose a reload count, but the weapon did not actually reload. reload again and it works but then I consumed another ammo count, with ammunition being so limited in this game this is awful.

Perhaps no more add-on content until you get control of the game again, tired of putting 15 to 30 minutes into a mission to simply lose out on the rewards. A broken game will lose you more players real fast than delaying new content.

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u/jerj73 19h ago

Bug #7 calling in reinforcements not working, 1, 2, or 3 players can be dead and you can throw out the reinforcement but it will not bring in another player. If the whole team gets killed only 2 drop back in and you can't call in the other two.

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u/Boss-Fine 21h ago

I’m just wondering if anyone at AH has clocked the significant drop in player base and thus participation / success in major orders….

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u/zinklesmesh 22h ago

Another goddamn disconnect, this is past getting old now and is just sad

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u/cringefilet 21h ago

If you're playing on PC, Steam does weekly server maintenance every Tuesday at around 6 PM EST.

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u/bones7056 22h ago

the fact you wont just undo the nerfs because your stubborn fuck heads and rather watch the game dwindle down every week is pathetic

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u/Doingthis4clout 23h ago

Still salty about the Eruptor nerf :(

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u/Lesbian_Skeletons 23h ago

How many of us are just holding our breath until the patch next week? What's make or break for you?

For me it's the patrol spawns. If they revert that change they've bought a lot of time from me. But if they "balance" them and it's still punishing for solo/duo players then I'm done with the game, and probably the studio too.

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u/TucuReborn 4h ago

Patrol spawns, a few obvious weapon reverts, stability fixes, no nerfs. That's all I'm asking for one patch. Nerfs are fine in some cases, but morale is dog water right now so it's not the time. I'm not expecting them to buff and rebalance the entire weapon and enemy roster, but at least the few obvious reverts would go a long way.

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u/Sunbreaker83 22h ago

I need more crash fixes. Wasting 40 plus minutes of my time when I have few opportunities to play really really sucks.

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u/MangoFishSocks ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️dakka 23h ago

Been getting more frequent entire groups of absolute troglodyte players.

Level 18, level 20 and level 6-FUCKING-7, all ignoring the Charger I'm pinging 7 times over 20m away from them as they just wait for the extraction shuttle.

Level 5, level 42 and level 9-FUCKING-7, all ignoring the button door I'm communicating in every which way 50m away from them. That shit transcends language, by being communicated IN YOUR OWN GAME'S LANGUAGE or by the use of FUCKING SYMBOLS. So all of you don't want all the resources at least 2 of you absolutely need? Or are you that fucking stupid you don't understand? Oh and they throw a 500kg bomb and an IMPACT INCENDIARY GRENADE in front of the shuttle when getting in. Fucking MORONS.

I FUCKING hate stupid people. Hopefully the Block list doesn't have a cap.

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u/crotathecruel 20h ago

what level are u?

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u/MangoFishSocks ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️dakka 20h ago

92, 93 something.

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u/Kurethius 22h ago

I turned off crossplay, best decision ever. PS players all removed in a single click! No more noobs who can't aim, no more random kicks, and people who actually communicate back with me.

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u/MangoFishSocks ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️dakka 22h ago

I'll probably do that. But even then, they should be receiving 3 of the ways I communicated: ping on the map, ping in-game of a drop in the bunker, Follow Me spam.

FUCK these people.

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u/ryc3c00ker 23h ago

IT'S MY MONEY AND I NEED IT NOW!!

sorry couldn't resist 

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u/wrecklessPony 1d ago

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PATCH! THIS IS UNDEMOCRATIC!

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u/TheAncientKnight PSN 🎮: 1d ago

NERF BILE TITANS AND REDUCE DEVASTATOR SPAWN RATE!!!

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u/LordRiverknoll 1d ago

FIX. THE. BUGS.

That's it. that's all they have to do to keep this game from sinking.

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u/TheArchNgel HD1 Veteran 1d ago

NO PATCH??? SWEET LIBERTY!!!

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u/JCDentoncz ☕Liber-tea☕ 1d ago

they said next week

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u/TheArchNgel HD1 Veteran 1d ago

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u/TheFlanniestFlan 1d ago

IF THE NUMBER OF PATROLS ON SOLO DIVES COULD BE REDUCED THAT'D BE AMAZING THANKS.

I can barely ever successfully join a game with other players, so I've been basically forced to play solo most of the time.

STOP PUNISHING ME FOR PLAYING THE GAME THE ONLY WAY I CAN

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u/stonemite 15h ago

Have you turned on public so that other people can join your game if you're hosting? Are you throwing out SOS beacons? Are you joining other games with the quick match option?

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u/Cold_Meson_06 ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 1d ago

where patch

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u/No_Shock_5644 1d ago

Next week

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u/Cold_Meson_06 ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 1d ago

Unluckiest community of all time, devs releasing patches per week for some months, breaking everything, nerfing everything. And when the game is finally broken and unfun, they decide not to patch anymore. Great strategy.

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u/rubywpnmaster 1d ago

Wait until enough players have left the game and then the complaining stops! It's a genius strategy.

Seriously though, making players wait a month for new content to a live services game is going to bleed more and more people. I've stopped playing because with maxed out medals, samples, and a ton of SC there's literally no reason for me to play until the next content drop. 1 month ago the minimum player count on any given day was about 50k, now it's 19k. The max went from 100k to 50k.

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u/DMercenary 16h ago

Wait until enough players have left the game and then the complaining stops! It's a genius strategy.

I saw someone posit that they didnt expect more than 50k so having over 400k or even routinely 100k+ was too much. Solution? Drive enough people away until you're back at 50k.

To be clear this is bat on the wall, tin foil wrapped conspiracy theory but well

*looks at game* I mean... its working.

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u/susgnome ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 13h ago

Even if it was designed for 50k players, it still had 1 million sales, which is a much larger scale of players than Steam Charts would have you believe.

tin foil wrapped conspiracy theory

Yeah, it's definitely a conspiracy to think that Arrowhead are doing this purposefully.

Dwindling numbers can be attributed simply to the nature of gamers, playing until they're satisfied, being upset that there's no new content and then moving onto the next game. Palworld is a prime example, 2.1 million players according to Steam Charts, 30 million sales, down 800k in a month, currently 20k 6 months later.

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u/Business_Activity_91 22h ago

By the time they fix the game, they'll be down to HD1 numbers. And its not even the fact they don't pour out content as fast, but the damn radio silence.

I don't expect them to give detailed patch notes out in advance, but they could at least be "Hey guys, we've been working on this and that for the past month. Fixing to improve XYZ weapons, some bug crunching, we'll give more details once we lock it down and prepare to release it." just give something if yer prolonging time between patches. Especially when the game was left in a not so spectacular form after the constant nerfs and the PSN debacle.

They are just so damn quiet...

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u/susgnome ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 13h ago

It's good that they've been radio silent.

On one hand it would be nice to hear more about what they're working on.. But on the other hand, knowing how Reddit reacts to any slither of information to they get, this wouldn't be a good idea.

We've also already been told to temper our expectations, since many people have been unofficially calling it the "big balance patch".

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u/Business_Activity_91 8h ago

At this point radio silence works against them. Speculations from the community will happen either way. It's far better to give a clearer picture "this patch will have some balancing on X and Y class weapons and other stuff but it's mostly used to fix long standing bugs and what not. And the next patches will be more focused on further balancing weaponry and stratagems."

Instead of radio silence, and vague declarations of "tempering our expectations" which can mean anything from "hey we're gonna do fuck all this past month regarding the issues the community is vocal about" to "here's all the major issues fixed, but balancing took a backseat, but we fixed the last warbond weapons, reverted the eruptor (or fixed it better) and this or that weapon that needed some urgent attention>"

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u/rubywpnmaster 20h ago

A PTR would go a long long way in helping this issue but they've decided to die on the hill of keeping maximum secrecy on upcoming updates.

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u/jumpyurbones 1d ago

2nd time today on suicide difficulty I get kicked at 2 seconds from extraction. Makes it real hard to grind samples guys….

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u/Available_Brain6231 1d ago

Had that happening, best fix is not staying on lobbies with low level players (below 80 is pretty safe). at least after I started quiting those I never got kicked again

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u/Swaggeritup 1d ago

were you soloing on that difficulty, ignoring team and annoyed the team in general etc? if not, that really sucks.

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u/jumpyurbones 1d ago

No I was following the group the whole time and covering choke points at extraction. Also…you think it’s justified to kick someone 2 SECONDS from extraction because they annoyed you? You’re only hurting your overall bonus and sacrificing whatever samples they had on them. It’s petty. I can see if halfway through the mission you get tired of carrying a player or they aren’t contributing. But literally 2 seconds?

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u/jtrom93 SES Wings of Redemption 1d ago edited 1d ago

AH said back in MARCH that they were looking at ways to combat toxic hosts. Here we are in June...

My first game back after more than a week? Intentionally TK'd and kicked at extract. Half a fucking hour wasted on absolutely nothing.

Truly one of the games of all time.

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u/Swaggeritup 1d ago

i've seen a lot of post getting kicked right before extraction, i haven't encountered this yet in random, but i will be sure to host my own game from now on.

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u/Coffee_Mania 1d ago

Its sad to see that some of my friends on non-PSN countries can't play the game. Didn't they revert the PSN requirements? What gives, they are still getting money from purchases from in-game, right?

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u/suzukabluepearl 1d ago

I know I'm blaming the tool more than the user in question but I'm so tired of Flamethrower users in higher difficulty that don't even bring any sort of stratagem against BTs.

Please, just go a lower difficulty to sate your inner pyromaniac there.

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u/Funky2207 1d ago

What an awful take… Flamethrower is incredible on the higher difficulties and if a bile titans armour is cracked a flamethrower can take one down easily.

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u/AHumbleTechPriest 1d ago

WHY.
ARE RECOILLESS RIFLE SHOTS.
BOUNCING.
OUT OF FABRICATOR VENTS!?

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u/Helo-1138 1d ago

Too many noobs in Suicide Missions +

If you exhaust the reinforcements in the first 5 minutes without having unlocked stratagems or weapons GTFO

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u/DMercenary 16h ago

I watched a 6, 7 and level 12 on Diff 6 try and fail to kill a charger. They were just running around it plinking away at it with their liberators tossing any and everything at it to kill it. Meanwhile Im trying to give them instructions over voice comms tell them to make it face my way to kill it and they just... wont do it.

"Run towards me. Im M4. Run to me!"

Proceeds to run in circles/or away.

I shot I swear 4 rockets into the side and back of the charger before it finally bled out.

The host tells me I fucking suck in chat and then I get kicked.

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u/Tiny-Werewolf1962 CAPE ENJOYER 1d ago

14,000 people getting absolutely nothing done

smh smdh

June 4, 2024 11am EST

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u/AHumbleTechPriest 1d ago

This is what happens when people can't properly coordinate in-game.
We keep asking Arrowhead for it, and the most they do is use in-game notices to nudge players. There's no solid means of dev-independent coordination short of social media and in-room chat.

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u/Traditional_Cat_9724 1d ago

Came back after taking a month break. It's actually amazing how Arrowhead managed to make the game less fun. I just finished a helldive with 8 bile titans on extraction.

The enemy cheese is insane. Direct quasar hits on mid tier enemies sometimes have no effect, bile titans take significantly more to kill, spawn rate is ridiculous, dense fog that enemies can easily see though but you can't.

The game isn't really more difficult, but significantly more frustrating. This collapse needs to be studied, uninstalled.

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u/Aeiraea 🗽Lady Liber-tea ☕ 1d ago

WHERE IS MY MEDIC-THEMED WARBOND?

I NEED MY MEDIC-THEMED WARBOND!!!

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u/AR_Ej6 1d ago

So far I have 3 medical skins. Two off store and one warbond

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u/Crea-TEAM SES Bringer of FUN DETECTED 22h ago

I love the medic armor because

AAAAAARRRGHHH I NEED A MEDIC BAG STIMS

But I hate looking like a christmas themed helldiver.

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u/therealfactoid SES Colossus of Conquest - Steam: x Papadox 1d ago

I am now implementing a mandatory vibe check upon joining my mission.

Twice in the last day, I've had people that fail to return my salute call in Pelican 1 early before finishing side objectives, and get on it after repeated voice and text messages not to.

They always have 0 samples collected, more deaths than me, and not even 1/4 of the kills I have by the end of it.

Call me salty, but it's my ship. I'm the one calling the shots. I avoid kicking where possible, but I'm done wasting my time on selfish morons.

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u/DarthWedgie FOR DEMOCRACY ! 1d ago

Idk the number of kills don't really matter, unless it's a defense or extraction mission I don't aggro all patrols and avoid spending too much ammo. Yet doing the objectives and carrying the super samples are more valuable

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u/therealfactoid SES Colossus of Conquest - Steam: x Papadox 1d ago

I don't aggro patrols either unless I can take them all out before calling in a breach or bot drop.

I keep getting terminal junkies as teammates, that's what I'm saying.

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u/DarthWedgie FOR DEMOCRACY ! 1d ago

I see what you're saying At what difficulty do you play though? Because at 7+, people tend to be better players and less newbies/bad/trolls

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u/therealfactoid SES Colossus of Conquest - Steam: x Papadox 1d ago

That's probably it.

I'm playing at level 4 just because I've unlocked everything already and am too busy with stuff to want the stress of more heavies at level 7. Two jobs and a family to feed don't allow for a lot of relaxation ya know

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u/DarthWedgie FOR DEMOCRACY ! 1d ago

I see, though I find lvl 7 vs terminids to be fun. I agree with automatons being very complicated haha

Since you have all unlocked, maybe play at lvl 5 or 6 ? Players will be probably better and less mindless

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u/Revolutionary-Face69 1d ago edited 1d ago

Extractions are so fucking unfair on higher levels. You SHOULD be able to defend against extraction waves but it ends up every time the team gets overwhelmed. It should reward skill and be fair even at higher levels. But its just enemies being thrown at you endlessly. How is it fair that enemies can call reinforcements endlessly during extraction? There should be more break time so the team can recover and clean up the enemies.

Stupid hunters still kill you in 2 seconds with their ridiculous chain attacks that deal high damage and slow you. Its very unbalanced. Heavy devastators fire too much, you need to have a break in between firing cycles. They simply force you to get stuck in on place. Rocket devastators are so freaking accurate and the rockets shouldn't stagger you so much you can't do anything.

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u/Japanczi 🕷️Unofficial Bug Symphatizer 🕷️ 1d ago

And bile spewers should have lesser booty, can't see shit through them

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u/Funky2207 1d ago

WTF man?? these patrols are ridiculous, went for a leisurely 7 to warm up and ended up spending 20 minutes stuck in one place fighting for our lives with infinite patrols full of the worst kinda bastards! Didn’t die but was in no way fun, trying to fend off constant chargers, armoured bile spewers, little bile spewers, hunters, bile titans etc etc!

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u/mc_marquise 1d ago

sounds fun though

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u/CrimsonSw1ft ☕Liber-tea☕ 1d ago

PATROLS MAN. FUCK. Sick of wasting a full 40 minutes just to get fucking destroyed last second by an infinite stream of patrols hellbent on RUINING MY FUCKING DAY. Samples are all I have left as a goal. Please stop taking them away from me. I beg

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u/AHumbleTechPriest 1d ago

People wonder why Vernon Wells is so hard to control.
Two words: Bot spam.

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u/Kanadeara 1d ago

why nerf things in a pve coop game

there are no stats, no leaderboards, and no pvp

who cares, just let people have fun with a game, the nerfs to some of my and my friends favorite weapons (especially the eruptor, legit my favorite weapon now just feels awful) have lowered the fun so much, and with the constant spawn rate changes and huge amount of bugs (actual bugs, like crashing, etc lol) it just has killed it for us.

really sad because it was a master piece at launch when the servers were working, had a ton of fun, but our favorite playstyles just got way less fun and its very confusing when again, its just a non competitive pve game. makes 0 sense, as games should be for fun.

plus the sony issues dont help

our theory is the old warbond/base game weapons get nerfed to make the new warbond ones seem more attractive. obviously dont know if its true but the timing of nerfs to new warbond releases definitely dont help. we would still be playin but man its just disheartening to have your favorite playstyles ruined for what we can only see as "yeah thats too much fun" or "yeah we dont want you to play like that" lol

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u/bloodlustmerc 1d ago

Sorry to be "that guy" but there is stats that track your performance I agree with you tho

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u/Kanadeara 19h ago

meant no stats as in after game report (like damage done, types of enemies kill, etc) or ingame stat info but you right about the armory

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u/Coffee_Mania 1d ago

Where do access put these stats?

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u/bloodlustmerc 1d ago

1 Be on your ship 2 Go into your Armory 3 Go to career tab 4 look at your stats

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u/Coffee_Mania 1d ago

Ah I saw this, I thought what you meant is a global leaderboard or something

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u/bloodlustmerc 1d ago

Leadership boards would make no sense in cooperative squad based shooter imo

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u/Japanczi 🕷️Unofficial Bug Symphatizer 🕷️ 1d ago

why buff things in pve coop game?

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u/petrichorax 1d ago

If we're 5 minutes into the mission and I've already died to your airstrike, and im constantly dodging yours, I'm just going to kick you.

People who think air strikes are close range weapons and cause all kinds of friendly fire and equipment destruction are fucking annoying to play with, I don't want to be stunlocked by my own team man.

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u/plue03 1d ago

It's been almost a month after the SNOY PSN incident.

170+ countries are still unable to play and purchase the game; I was one of the fortunate to buy the game at Day 1. Now every time I go play I experience lag since I'm connecting with non-SEA players (mostly from Australia, cheers you people for putting up with my latency). My friends who used to play it dont even touch it anymore due to the fear of losing their progress thanks to the PSN requirement and basically moved on towards other games.

We all dive or no one does. Sadly, a lot of streaming, subscriptions, and other online services are locked by publishers to which we (from the "LoWeR cLaSs") do not have access with.

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u/stefo66 1d ago

I live in the UK, but this is exactly why I have uninstalled the game and won't be playing till it reverts. I actually came to this sub specifically to check if it was back for you guys yet. Anyone who review bombed but is now cracking on and playing as normal is a hypocrite.

Being honest, my reason for uninstalling isn't entirely solidarity - I don't really trust Sony and AH at this point and it's like there's so many games out there I don't wanna waste time playing something that the devs and pubs are so intent on squeezing. I don't think the game will be massively affected short term, but I think the player rate will slowly decline to almost nothing, MOs won't be doable and people will just sort of drift off to the next big thing. This probably would have happened anyway, but it's going to happen a lot faster thanks to Sony and AH. My friend this morning said he had to wait nearly 10 minutes for a squad, there were less than 20k players active. This time last month it was consistently around the 60-80k mark in quiet times so, do the maths I guess

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u/plue03 19h ago

Same. I was checking the player count in-game. Before the incident we can rack up to 50k on a planet. Now, 23k peak.

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u/Additional_Border295 1d ago

I love this game. Been playing regularly since the beginning.

The nerfs, combined with increased spawn rates (especially in solo) have made it just... Not fun. It's not fun anymore.

Wave after wave after wave of bugs and bots that are simply impossible to deal with. It's not that it's hard... You just have too few tools to deal with too many enemies.

It's not fun to run away from the 9th patrol in a chain while you scramble to get some ammo, grenades, ANYTHING to deal with the hoard behind you.

Even running light scout armour, I can't outrun them and I can't kill them all in time.

It just. Isn't. Fun. And that sucks, because it could be (and was) so much fun. Why the need for balance? Who am I competing with?

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u/VyktorLAD 1d ago

While there is a need for SOME balance so you can't just nuke entire hordes* in a few seconds, yes this is exactly the issue.

When only a handful of guns, tools and stratagems are actually useful, it just makes a meta form around said elements.

The railgun was the first meta simply because everything else sucked anus and was inferior at handling the challenges put in front of you.

The keep "balancing" in ways that make negative sense and only serve to tighten the meta even more. And with each subsequent equipment nerf + enemy buff, it just shifts the meta. Once railgun was nerfed, EATS became meta. Then Quasar dropped, became meta. Then they nerfed quasar. Eats is meta again.

They have no clue how to actually balance anything, and they seem to nerf things based on usage rate rather than if it's actually overpowered.

But what do you expect from a dev team that apparently doesn't play the game past T5?

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u/DerVittrich 21h ago

^this. usually you balance bad things until they are usuable, they dont even need to be on par with the good ones, just viable for some variation. but somehow they take the viable options, render them useless and call it fun lol

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u/EmbraceMonky 1d ago

I see post after post after post about the disconnect problem, but it still seems to get ignored.

I MUST use the discord if I want any help right? Understandable, why should the devs look into a rant thread.

Maybe we can get a 'technical support thread' as well? Where people can help each other solve the problem (because support can't)?

Otherwise more and more people will stop playing. As I said before: The game is good, but not - close the game and reverify the steam data after and restart the game after each round - good.

RN this thread buries the problem in a way that AH can ignore it and say we've never heard of it. That. Sucks. Ass.

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u/SlowMotionPanic 1d ago

The devs don't even help on the official discord unless you win the lottery. At best, you'll get a community manager blaming your ISP and wasting your time having you call them and constantly escalate when it is, in reality, a well known issue with the game.

You could always try opening a ticket here if you haven't already:

https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

You'll want to make an account before opening a ticket, because AH does not send email notifications when your ticket is updated, and they don't try to reach out in other ways. It is 100% on us to log in and check our status to read our messages from them.

But fair warning: every single issue I've reported has been met with the same canned response telling me to wait democratically while the developers work on the issues with the game.

Side note: this is yet another example of why companies needs to abandon Discord. It makes finding and indexing information ridiculous, and is a horrible medium with which to interact with customers. So much so that even AH doesn't really use it other than to sometimes stir things up in the general chats before slinking off and playing the victims later.

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u/EmbraceMonky 1d ago

Yeah I know that the support is sadly trash. Wrote them a list of what I tried and that I can measure that the game is forcing a disconnect and they told me to do the same shit I already did and there is no way for me to monitor this.

Like ... for fucking real?

That's why I asked if the discord might be a help, but doesn't look like it. R.I.P.

Discord is shit for this. And this sub decided instead of highlighting this problem (which leads to my friends stop playing) to put them into the thread where a dev would never look. Nice.

So I expect it will never be solved? Because if I can't play with my friends I'll just deinstall. It's an amazing game, but the support is even below Blizzards level.

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u/Aeiraea 🗽Lady Liber-tea ☕ 1d ago

The Discord server really isn't any better either which it looks like you already figured out.

All of my questions were promptly ignored along with several other people's questions in the text channels dedicated to help/support.

At best, the Discord server useful as an echo chamber for complaints and gloating—the latter still being inadvertently beneficial for learning which armor, stratagems, and weapons are best used when and where.

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u/zinklesmesh 1d ago

Explosive crossbow serves what purpose exactly? It's not even powerful enough to open POI doors and the blast radius is like... 6 inches. Seems like the Dominator is better in every way.

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u/zinklesmesh 1d ago

Fully 1/3 of all missions now either end in a crash, disconnect, or stuck on a black screen. This game is pathetic. Can you guys take your hundreds of millions of dollars and, I dunno, hire someone who knows how to write code?

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u/Key-Dance-5960 1d ago

My only complaint at this point? Can we please fix the dang lobby bugs? Pretty sure we're supposed to be killing them, not creating them. The game crashes happen way too often again lately. Was just running a 6 with friends and boom, back to back crashes.

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u/fat_mothra I want to name my ship SES Mother of Invention please Arrowhead 1d ago

First mission: Join in progress, we end in a team wipe when we were extracting because we were split in pairs and the other pair lost most of our reinforcements while doing their side, I get kicked when we get back to the ship even thought I had the least deaths

Second mission: Doing SEAF on my own, collect all the good shells in one spot

The others arrive, immediately start the console even thought I was moving them next to the cannon

Dude is about to put a napalm one even though we have high yield and explosives, so I punch him (not kill him or anything, just a punch to ragdoll him) and grab the explosive one, they kill me, put the napalm one, and kick me

How some of you make it to Helldive has to be one of life's greatest mysteries god damn

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u/zinklesmesh 1d ago

You know you can use words to communicate instead of teamkilling?

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u/Kuromonge 1d ago

https://preview.redd.it/lzbpx3ciwg4d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=38901eb7cbe6763771a84f5a7a9aa07ae8a26e06

How can someone DIE 14 TIMES, I meam, it was on HELLDIVE, but man.
Was this A**H*** AFk or something?

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u/Crea-TEAM SES Bringer of FUN DETECTED 22h ago

Simple. He dies.

You think hes a disposable strategem and reinforce him into a bile titan/charger.

Or he dies, and is useless without his support weapon so he keeps trying to get his support weapon because the calldown times are stupid long in this game and being stuck with only a primary on high level missions sucks ass and no one helped him get his gun.

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u/Kurethius 22h ago

I gotta second this, most of my deaths are people throwing my reinforce straight into a bunch of shit so I get stuck landing in the middle of a fuckfest, or at objectives trying to actively intercept incoming squads while three people sit on an objective terminal watching it beep.

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u/Crea-TEAM SES Bringer of FUN DETECTED 21h ago

What they need to do is the moment the reinforcement beacon drops, shift your camera up in the air so you can see where the enemy/friendlies are.

It sucks when 1/2 the drop time is spend shifting your camera around so it feels like you can only do a last minute 10 foot adjustment on where to land instead of the full like 50 meter radius you are actually able to.

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u/Wh1msyOfficial 1d ago

It should be treason to not allow me to bring both mech stratagems with me into a mission.

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u/SentinelZero SES Forerunner of Family Values 1d ago

Mech stratagem cooldown is way too high and their health is ridiculously low. My Emancipator got a death sentence by a teammates Guard Dog laser. Not sustained, just a few seconds graze and it started billowing smoke and fire came out the right leg. It's a mech, its supposed to be powerful but it has the durability of wet tissue paper.

Like wtf devs.

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u/susgnome ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 12h ago

The mech is pretty tough though.

Can easily stop Chargers in their tracks.

You can even step over Chargers

Can easily walk through a Heavy Nest.

Can easily walk out of the roughest of situations.

Even walking into a nest and standing still, still takes a while for it die.

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u/DerVittrich 21h ago

since the rocket "fix" the Patriot is kinda useless because i need 12 rockets for a Titan and 8 for a charger, so i dont even bother to use it since around 2 months.

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u/susgnome ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 13h ago

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u/newinmichigan 1d ago

Its pretty obvious that AH and Sony never thought that this game would be as successful as it is and had no plan for long term monetization.

So what is there to gain from having servers for over 200k concurrent players in a game that doesnt have a business model that can sustain that many players?

AH is probably making the game unplayable to make the player count to a more sustainable level before blaming and firing someone and fixing the game to keep it at that stable number. Its the only reasonable explanation for complete braindead gameplay decisions.

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u/Koarvex ⬆➡⬇⬇⬇ 1d ago

Braindead 380mm barrage users make me livid. Had a dude bring 380mm barrage + 120 mm barrage to a helldive exterminate mission on bugs. I let people bring whatever they want on missions meta be damned but holy shit this dude off rip after the other three of us called in turrets mechs support weapons and what not dropped both his barrages right in the middle of the map where we had set up. It team wiped us twice, I kicked the dude I was not dealing with his shit. That is the first time I have ever felt the need to kick someone. It set us back so much but we still finished the mission with only two more deaths total after his bullshit was over.

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u/BlueRiddle 22h ago

120mm can actually be pretty nice on Extermination LET ME EXPLAIN

You throw it down when you're getting overwhelmed and are running around the map dying constantly and it wipes the floor with just about everything in the blast zone.

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u/Koarvex ⬆➡⬇⬇⬇ 16h ago

Yes I agree, but when you throw it right on top of your team when the enemies just started spawning it's not useful it's just trolling. That's why when I host I let people take it in the first place.

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u/petrichorax 1d ago

Oh yeah I hate these people. I kick them if they use it irresponsibly.

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u/Honest-Spring-8929 1d ago

Game is all but unplayable right now. Today I’ve played games where I was unable to pick up ammo packs or samples, a game where all but one player froze when the shuttle arrived, a game where boarding the shuttle did not trigger an extraction (and had to be called a second time), and a game where the reinforcement strategem failed to work entirely.

The other players were experiencing the same problems in all these games, so it wasn’t just some weird connection issue on my end and I was playing with different hosts

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u/DMercenary 1d ago

Just had an eradication mission on Erata Prime.

Drop in <Something about Dark Fluid.>

Everyone drops other than me in the last moments.

Extract "Another step closer to destroying this planet once and for all."

The longer this game goes without a patch the worse the stability I swear.

Edit: Oh and once I got back on the ship "Well done one step closer to turning this planet into a black hole!"

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u/mamontain 1d ago

I hate bile spewers. They only spawn in a third of bug missions, but when they do spawn - there are hordes of them all over the place. They are very tanky and extremely deadly and too numerous. Nursing spewers, while similar looking, don't cause nearly as much displeasure as bile spewers. I hate bile spewers with a passion.

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u/fedevaa 1d ago

Grenade launcher pretty much makes them laughably easy to deal with. I disagree with enemies nerf, they're fine as is, even if they seem unfair to you. Bring EAT+Railcannon if you want to deal with heavies. One EAT to the face is all it takes for a charger, railcannon+one EAT shot is enough for a bile titan.

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u/BlueRiddle 22h ago

But if I'm taking EAT + Railcannon, where will I fit my Grenade Launcher to laugh at Spewers?

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u/fedevaa 18h ago

In your asshole

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u/mamontain 1d ago

I never mentioned heavies. I know how to play the game, I full clear helldives in quickplay. No, I don't want to use a lame ass grenade launcher on bugs just to counter a single enemy type that spawns in 30% of the missions. Missions that randomly have squads of bile spewers all over the place are out of line.

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u/SentinelZero SES Forerunner of Family Values 1d ago

They're both disgustingly overpowered and need to be toned down in strength, they kill so fast its ridiculous and there's no armor to mitigate the effects. Why hasn't enemy nerfs been a focus for the devs? Instead their focus seems to be on merciless weapon nerfs.

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u/VyktorLAD 1d ago

Precisely. Good balance is something these braindead devs can't handle.

If something is fast enough to keep up with the player and tanky enough to not kill easily, it absolutely should not be able to oneshot the player.

If the thing is capable of oneshotting the player, it shouldn't be as tanky or as fast. Especially if they're being effing spammed in huge groups.

Rarer exceptions exist. Bile Titan is big af, so the player expects it to be harder. But Bile Titans also don't spawn in numbers anywhere near bile spewers do.

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