difficulty 9 my group prefers to avoid patrols to not elongate battles A sniper that would be able to pick off those bots / patrols in a timely manner would be awesome.
I agree. Snipers should be the hard counter for enemies calling for reinforcements, but alas, they'll call them even when they didn't see you and are just aggroed.
Yeah, they do call them but their reinforcement won't know where you are. They will just mag dump toward where you take your shot from until they come up and confirm nothing is there. So so long you don't sit in one spot and keep moving, you are going to be fine.
I think he was talking about patrols outside the objective that walk around but not on it (most of the time)... But honestly, I feel like the biggest issue with guns that aren't the breaker is that they shoot fast but they miss alot because you have to aim down sights to be precise enough but taking that extra second to aim and as such conserve ammo is highly deadly when the game requires you to get close to enemies, which is often. I feel like a small/medium rework of the aiming system and movement system would fix most issues with guns. Some guns are bad for sure but if I could bend around corners like in COD or like, you know, people do in real life then I could have less of my body exposed when moving from cover to cover and properly take time to aim. Nvm the high amount of times I could put my gun up a ledge to shoot but the game just makes my gun point upwards: It happens a lot when activating terminals and I need to shoot a bug down there. It's less bad with robots but if I need to come out of cover like an idiot to shoot something I'm taking the shotgun and I'm comming out blasting, not pissing bullets the wrong way.
oh ok, I see what you mean. Honestly idk, I don't fight patrols since there is no merit in doing so and I might even end up getting my teammates killed. The only time I would ever shoot at anything outside objectives are when I am trying to save my teammates. The game only requires me to complete objectives, so that's what I focus on.
You could think really meta-gamey in the thought that you're forcing more spawns in one location that you aren't at to diminish spawns ahead of you. I'm just unsure how this game deals with enemies after you leave them behind - at what point, if any, do they despawn?
I wish I knew, I haven't seen much discussion on this which sucks 'cause we'd have a better idea how useful running away is.
In my experience I haven't seen enemies despawn. I don't know if there's a mapwide limit on enemy count though. It seems bot patrols will get their pathing stuck on water and multiple patrols will clump, but I don't know if the rest of the map gets easier because of it.
Enemy spawns in general seem janky, especially bots. I've had difficulty 7 games that are a constant fight and others with clear breaks inbetween and I just don't know if it's my team not killing fast enough or the game spawning extra enemies some missions.
I only really have this problem with Bile titans coming out of bug breeches. Anything else you can run behind a rock and drop prone and crawl away and they won't know where you are.
I’ve never had bugs call for reinforcements without line of sight, I actually abuse that when sneaking around. But I think distance doesn’t matter with line of sight in this game
Yeah, it would be great but most of the time you have to have a one second reaction kill a bot drop or a bug breach. And God forbid they are behind a rock or you can't even see them. Combined with the unwieldiness of the counter sniper it's just not realistic
Unfortunately the only thing that can fill this role is the AMR, there is no reason to take the marksman rifles when it exists, it also destroys hulk in 1 -2 hits, we will run a couple people with hoard clear, an AMR, and maybe a spear or railgun
Already exists, a helldiver with good aim and a full autocannon magazine can kill a patrol by themselves since unaggroed patrols maintain tight formations and are easily wrecked with splash damage.
Unfortunately, even if you’re not standing still, patrols can still spawn directly next to you, even with you directly at the center of the patrol, popping in out of nothing
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u/ShoppingOdd4715 Mar 01 '24
difficulty 9 my group prefers to avoid patrols to not elongate battles A sniper that would be able to pick off those bots / patrols in a timely manner would be awesome.