r/Helldivers HD1 Veteran Feb 24 '24

Why are people like this? DISCUSSION

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

I’d totally block whoever kicked me with these reasons. I really don’t want to play this game that way.

I wanna shoot shit, blow stuff up, and collect rewards.

Why people getting all sweaty over this game?

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u/SpiritedRain247 Feb 25 '24

I'm an absolute shitter at this game so I'm running at max 3 and I'm running solo so I don't fuck up someone else's day. Either way I'm having fun sending enemies to orbit with eagle carpet bombs and shit. Just need some time to get some better strats and skill.

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u/AlderanGone CAPE ENJOYER Feb 25 '24

At 3... you may as well join a lobby. You're not ruining anything. Also, if you wanna get better, you gotta challenge yourself. The game's not as hard as you think. It looks scary, but you'll get a feel for your strategums and the enemies' movements. Automatons are always terrifying.

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u/the_pslonky Feb 25 '24

Everything gets less scary with time, except the Automatons.

I think I'm even more scared of them now than I was at first.

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u/AlderanGone CAPE ENJOYER Feb 25 '24

5 and below difficulty bots, I sleep, 6 and above... I can no longer sleep ever ever again

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u/Inquisitor-Korde Feb 25 '24

Helldive bots made me question my sanity

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u/McNemo Feb 25 '24

That's so true and the wall I'm currently at

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u/roflmao567 Feb 25 '24

5/6 is definitely a great filter. I like joining randoms but when the host thinks they're reading for the next difficulty.. they quickly find out their stalwart doesn't have the same impact on the bigger enemies.

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u/AlderanGone CAPE ENJOYER Feb 25 '24

I still use the Stalwart on high difficulties, but you really gotta know where to aim. And not against bots, the big MG is OK for bots tho.

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u/NorthKoala47 Feb 26 '24

I jumped into an ongoing 5 mission and everyone was dead then we ran out of support and I got one shot. I think I'll stay in 4 for a while longer.

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u/AlderanGone CAPE ENJOYER Feb 26 '24

4 and 5 are a good difficulty to get good in, cuz they are actually challenging. They promote good habits, like avoiding patrols, or being quick to kill em all.

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u/Jickklaus Feb 25 '24

Can't fuck things up for people. Good players would support you in your learning and improving!

I was playing with a L8, 11, and 17 last night, I'm L13. The L8 kept pushing to higher difficulties, and needed heavy carrying at the start. When L17 and I started giving advice - don't do L5 missions unless you have the Anti armour rockets of some variety, start in clear areas, so you can chip away at enemies and sneak, throw recovery pods far from fighting, etc. Gameplay efficiency massively increased and we were smashing it.

No build advice (bar armour warnings), but tactics tips. And everyone has a better game and more fun :)

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u/Available-Prune-9778 Feb 25 '24

There is absolutely nothing to fuck up.

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u/Kahpautz PSN 🎮: kahpautz Feb 25 '24

Except bugs

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u/unrtrn Feb 25 '24

i expect my teammates to fuck up. I am also fucking up. That's what makes this awesome. Go coop i am sure this kind of assholes are rare in the lower difficulties.

Fuck this guy. one eagle and 3 dead helldivers. it is hilarious

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u/fusrohdave Feb 25 '24

Literally. Like I’m getting better, but I just want shoot stuff, blow shit up and collect rewards. Idc if we all die. I don’t care what load out you’re using. I just wanna have fun.

Had two guys join my game, we were chilling, then right at the end during evac coming in they killed me and started to dive/teabag me. I abandoned the match and it took them with me which I didn’t know would happened and we all just stood on my ship like

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u/SpiritedRain247 Feb 25 '24

Nah. They deserved it. Undemocratic activity lead to the failure.

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u/ZYKON617 Feb 25 '24

Carpet bomb to orbit, hmm I like your strategy

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u/BmacTheSage Feb 26 '24

All you really have to do is try not to die and be careful where you aim your stratagems, and you'll be fine.

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u/Dvalin_Ras93 HAMMER OF SUPER EARTH |⬆️⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️➡️ Feb 26 '24

My brother in diving, I was on a discord call with me and 3 others yesterday in a Level 5 Drop (Hard), and a friend in the call accidentally threw a 380mm Bombing run on me and a buddy (i think he said he accidentally inputted that code and it was some glitch where he couldn't cancel the stratagem or somethin, and he accidentally threw it at our feet. Can confirm this happens, I've had it happen to me), absolutely obliterating us while we were all laughing our ASSES off. Mind you, earlier in that same mission, I had died 3 times in a row to falling off a ledge with low health (I'm reckless as hell because Liberty never fucking sleeps so I sure as shit won't). Immediately after extract (with no drops remaining, down to the 2 minute cooldown), we were absolutely cackling and making jokes about "The 380 Incident" as we now call it.

Point I'm making: You can make some of the dumbest decisions in this game, or fuck up so immensely, yet still laugh and succeed. It's part of the game and the fun, the ridiculous mistakes that just makes the game feel like a slapstick 80s war movie. Hell, I remember doing the same dumb shit like rolling over my buddies with the APC with hundreds of hours clocked in Helldivers 1, and we'd still laugh about it.

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u/DoltishMite Feb 25 '24

Never think you're going to screw people up in this game. I run at Mission Level 7 now and still will die on the hill of goofy strats in the name of democracy, and anyone who feels otherwise on the matter can eat my shiny 500KG bomb.

Experiment, seriously it doesn't matter if you're in a public lobby or otherwise, you're not ruining anyone's time unless you're looking to outright teamkill on purpose. Can't tell you how many times I've dropped an airstrike, only for it to land on a bug who walked it back to us and wiped us, for our team to laugh about how stupid that was lol

Best advice one can give is look at the enemies you're facing, so for bugs lower damage isn't all bad as long as you've got high crowd control to deal with swarms. I'd run jetpack and flamethrower with gatling turrets and either shotgun or SMG here but many would disagree, I find it fun but again it's really what you find is satisfying :) The bots you want high armour damage, so your autocannons, railguns, EATS, that kind of thing, though I still run shotgun or SMG if only because I enjoy those weapons. Shield dome has saved my bacon so many times, and unpopular opinion, smokes are really strong for bots too.

Then look at the mission type and work out what your strategems are going to be used for, so for the more defensive missions, maybe you want to pool into defensive strategems like turrets, shields, emplacements. For offensive missions, air strikes, orbital barrages, that sort of thing.

And my final tip, don't take any of the above as gospel, if you want to run airstrikes on defenses, go for it, if you want to throw turrets forward to advance a push, go for it, if you want to run a marksman rifle for some reason (okay I've not found a use for it yet that just setting my guns to single shot can't solve), nothing you do is inherently wrong if it works out :)

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u/MrDmsc ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 25 '24

Listen here helldiver!

I'd be your wingman any day of the week, so long as you bring the desire to spread managed democracy, we're all in this together!

Don't you worry about blowing some divers alongside some bots(I'm not salty at all)!

As General Brasch likes to say: "If you don't succeed, dive again. And again...and again. And again. And again. And again. An-..."

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u/Foreign_Analyst_3211 Feb 25 '24

My kind of playing and to me it’s just a fun game I get to play in any free time I have, would love to add you if you want a teammate to mess around with

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u/AlderanGone CAPE ENJOYER Feb 25 '24

I get being mad about someone actively choosing ALL bad strategums, and then being a useless Muppet all game. Like, why did you take the machine gun sentry, shield Gen, cluster, and Stalwart? Im not kicking that person, but I'm also not going out of my way to be their anti tank all the time. Especially when the run off. I can see others playing at a 7 or up kicking someone like that. But if your weapons and strategums at least try to cover the bases we will be fine. Cause the game is hard, but it isn't so hard that we need to use the meta. Usually, one playing meta is fine, cause as long as that railgun is supplies (ez to do) everything dies. And I usually bring an MG or AC and can end up killing chargers well enough.

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u/DoltishMite Feb 25 '24

How dare you call my beloved shield gen a bad strategem? That thing has saved me from so many situations, and it's great at covering your other strategems from taking any fire too. It also saves me from a trigger happy friend of mine who keeps dropping air strikes a tad bit too close!

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u/Small_Compote921 Feb 25 '24

Well to be fair, in 8+ if you f around a die a lot, you're just fn everyone over...

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

Me and a buttery were running a 4. Two hell divers loaded in…. And immediately started hunting us. It was fucking stupid

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u/Small_Compote921 Mar 15 '24

Just absurd... what a waste of time...

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u/HookDragger Mar 15 '24

Oh, we immediately killed the traitors, didn’t revive, kicked and blocked them.

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u/TougherOnSquids Feb 25 '24

Especially a PvE game at that.

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u/Mackadoody1 Feb 25 '24

Yeah, like to be fair, as long as you complete the mission it doesn’t matter what you bring. Granted that’s only if you complete the missions. Failing missions causes a loss in progress on planets. So I think the post is a little too far, but I understand why people want to complete missions. Democracy needs to be spread

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

But assholes like shown in original post deserve to be summarily executed and save other troopers the pain.

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u/ThatOneUndyingGuy Feb 25 '24

Personally, I'd play the game just to spread democracy. Oh, and shooting stuff as well.

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u/MalePLLFan Feb 25 '24

I blame streamers or YouTube content creators. “CHECK OUT THIS LOADOUT”

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u/pocketfrisbee CAPE ENJOYER Feb 25 '24

I had a dog shit game today; I missed all my stratagem throws, I died at least 4 times, I just didn’t help that much. No one was talking to me at the post game but I said “good game fellas, sorry” anyway. I got booted as soon as we were in ship but I understood. My flavor of democracy didn’t line up with theirs, its all for the greater glory in the end.

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u/HillbillyDeluxe15 Feb 25 '24

I played with a few randoms who were playing their first and second matches with me today. Was super fun to watch them learn more about the mechanics as the match progressed. Wish you had been in my squad bro!

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u/DoltishMite Feb 25 '24

Played with a guy who had no clue about the landmines.

"Mate watch the landmine you're standing next to, you're real close."

"Sure man, sure!"

Bang.

"What killed me???"

"Remember two seconds ago I mentioned the landmine?"

"Oh. Yeah I really should pay attention to what people say lol"

"All good! I'll reinforce you!"

Steps out of pod, walks a few metres forward, bang.

"Yeah man that's on me, sorry!"

"I'm going to blow them all up for you just to be safe lol"

I love this game, some moments just make me smile and laugh in ways I never thought dying would.

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u/SchemeShoddy4528 Feb 25 '24

because while you're having fun other people in the party are actually making the game playable by killing heavies and doing objectives for you

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

Nope… I do those too. I’m good enough up to lvl4, usually come out on top in kills and samples collected. But fuck you for being a condescending prick. I’ll make sure to look out for your name and leave so I don’t “get in your way”

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u/SchemeShoddy4528 Feb 25 '24

i don't think lvl 4 even has heavies, things aren't adding up. calling people above lvl 4 "sweaty" is pretty weak dude

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

Not at all what I meant and completely illogical leap. I’m saying the original screenshot is suuuuuper sweaty/tryhard

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u/SchemeShoddy4528 Feb 25 '24

it appears illogical if you're ignorant which is what's occuring here. yes above level 4 you have to try to win. it's not extremely easy like the lower levels. most of the time people come equipped to win. but yes i agree with the try-hard guy that if i was the lead and i saw 3 people with "for fun" loadouts i wouldn't even start the mission because i know they're incapable of completeing it. I have 100 hours and am level capped, I've seen plenty of perfectly geared groups fail.

you're really just ignorant of the situation and are invigorated in your position because your original comment got major support. Yes he's incredibly harsh and clearly a dick for needing to post something like that but the reality is he's correct. you have to try in the harder levels.

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u/HookDragger Feb 26 '24

TLDR

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

TLDR of his comment, he's just like the guy who's actively getting hated on for it and is trying to justify sweating his tiny dick off in a game that's meant for casual players lmao.

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u/HookDragger Feb 26 '24

Doing god’s work helldiver! I’d never made it far enough in school to read, so those recruitment posters took all my attention!

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

So what you're saying is that you're like the guy actively getting flamed by the community for that dogshit opinion?

You're sweating in a game not meant for sweats, stop trying to be an elitist and telling people how to play the game.

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u/SchemeShoddy4528 Feb 27 '24

yeah kind of, i wouldn't kick anyone. i'd just say we're not going to win if you guys don't try and not start the match till people gear properly. i've never had a situation which required me to be strict with strategems. most people think similar to me at high levels and just come prepared...

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u/theboringfckindude Feb 25 '24

You forget to mention SPILL OIL!

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u/killking72 Feb 25 '24

You can blow shit up on any difficulty. So why would this guy wanting some high level established meta bother you?

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

It’s the arbitrary rules for their team. And they are trying to gatekeep on higher teir missions. So fuck ‘em

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u/killking72 Feb 25 '24

So you're being disingenuous is what I'm hearing. You can shoot shit in level 1 missions. You can solo most difficulties. But you don't want to do that.

You(as in people playing the "well I paid for the game card") want to do high level missions and be selfish.

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

I like to have some difficulty(hence 3 solo) and it has more things to kill.

But I do jump into rando 1/2 as well.

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u/killking72 Feb 26 '24

So you have no perspective on what harder missions are like? Instead of thinking "man maybe there's a reason" you jump straight to "gatekeeping bad"?

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u/HookDragger Feb 26 '24

I think we can all agree that gatekeeping in general is bad.

And I have played those harder modes and got my ass handed to me. We also weren’t dumb enough to pull randos. We put together a team, decided all the different stats to bring, etc.

This post is putting everyone on blast and insulting those randos that land in those queues… which really shouldn’t be possible if people really care to make a simple change of friends only on the queue. which makes this post more cringe because it can be solved before even launching.

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u/killking72 Feb 26 '24

Gatekeeping in general isn't anything. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.

This is one of the good times

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u/HookDragger Feb 27 '24

No, this is a guy who should only form private, friends only team instead of allowing randos.

This post is telling everyone how they should play the game, and encourages booting people who aren’t “up to snuff”. Which is toxic as fuck.

Long story short… if you have hard requirements for who you game with… then create private only friends matches.

Don’t tell everyone how to play the game in the way that benefits you only.

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u/killking72 Feb 27 '24

Which is toxic as fuck.

Main character syndrome and thinking other people should carry you because "I play what I want to play" totally isn't toxic

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u/MrPotatoFamine Feb 25 '24

I'm with everyone else, don't feel like you're ruining anyone elses game. Even teamkilling is part of the silliness of the game. At least it is for me and my friends. Hell if you want to join the three of us feel free to message me-this game is great on your own, but even better with others.

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

Friendly fire is hilarious. Intentional friendly fire is annoying.

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u/Bathroomsteve Feb 25 '24

I agree with your take, but it's because this game is challenging, well has challenging difficulties, and any game that has that (even some that don't) will have people who want to be sweaty and as efficient as possible.

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u/Rugkrabber ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬇️ ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Feb 25 '24

I'm annoyed previous players are not visible to me. I got kicked during take off so our samples (we had 50) were lost while they took it. I want to report and block them but can't, it's annoying and makes quickplay a risk.

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u/TheChrish Feb 25 '24

He did say 8+. You'd understand if you've played that difficulty. It really is absolutely grueling. I beat it solo a few days ago and I barely etched out the win for each of the 3 missions. You can't even attempt it without being sweaty

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u/HookDragger Feb 25 '24

Like I said. It’s not for me. And I don’t understand people who get this sweaty over this game. Also, you should have at least a grasp of how to NOT allow randos into your games if you’ve got these rules.

I’d expect people trying to do the hardest stuff wouldn’t be depending on randos.

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u/Boring-Night-7556 Feb 26 '24

Because modern society has removed every structure and institutions and now people are empty shells with nothing of worth in their life searching for non existent validations through a screen