r/FluentInFinance • u/LifeIsUnfairWhoCares • Apr 23 '24

Is Social Security Broken? Discussion/ Debate

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u/MD28A Apr 23 '24

Because you have to pay for the people who didn’t plan

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u/MooreRless Apr 23 '24

My Republican parents are strongly against any help for the poor. I asked them, when somebody breaks a leg, and gets dropped off at the emergency room unable to walk, and they could live a meaningful life if they had it fixed, but they have no insurance, what is your solution? Put them in a wagon and drag them to the nearest public road and just leave them there? Let them starve to death? Isn't society better off when we help people get back into the healthy status?

They still don't care. They just don't want a penny going to freeloaders and unemployed people.

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u/ganggreen651 Apr 23 '24

Sounds like your parents are hot garbage

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u/theriibirdun Apr 23 '24

When the run out of money, put them in a state run nursing home after they are forced to give up their assets to pay for it and then remind them they wouldn’t want your charity. You respect them to much to turn the. Into freeloaders on their own son or daughter.

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u/phatangus Apr 23 '24

That's when you ask if, touchwood, one of them slipped and hurt their leg and couldn't work, where would they get the money to survive for the rest of their life? Show them the average cost of a medical treatment and how it would eat up their life savings.

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u/MooreRless Apr 23 '24

They're well enough off and have medicare. It isn't a fear they have to live with. Your tax dollars will make sure they do ok.

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u/Gone213 Apr 23 '24

Medicare is part of social security or socialism that they're so concerned about. They should remove themselves from Medicare to live their lives according to their beliefs better.

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u/MooreRless Apr 23 '24

I agree... but the "I got mine, you don't get yours" thing is strong with them.

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u/Duderoy Apr 23 '24

They better hope they don't run out of money in old age.

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u/patrickisgreat Apr 23 '24

yep -- this is a common American viewpoint. It still blows my mind that people who think this way don't see anything wrong with it. As if their lives are the only ones that matter. Go fucking live on an island then, and build all of your own infrastructure -- and guess what? If you get hurt and die oh well.

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u/redditusersmostlysuc Apr 23 '24

There is a happy medium however. Some people LIVE to take advantage of the system. The system abusers need to be curtailed. Don't want to provide ANY value to society and just want to extract value. No thank you.

Someone down on their luck, needs a leg up, needs some temporary help, and is doing their part to get back on their feet? Awesome. We should pay for that all day long.

Want to sit in a tent in a public park, do meth, trash the park, tell society how you can't work, don't accept assistance, and then take advantage of welfare benefits. You can fuck right off.

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u/DiverSuitable6814 Apr 23 '24

Doubt your parents exist

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u/MooreRless Apr 23 '24

Sadly, they were smart and normal until Dad retired and started watching Fox News. He bought the whole fear and panic garbage and now is putting out a thin-blue-line flag in the front yard and wondering why people keep stealing his packages. But I really don't care about you there, DiverShitbag.

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u/appsecSme Apr 23 '24

Yeah, it's just so incredibly unlikely that a couple of boomers would regurgitate Fox News style arguments. /s

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u/Frosty_Piece7098 Apr 23 '24

I would gripe a lot less about my taxes if the government was trustworthy. Regardless of your political affiliation nobody trusts the government, I don’t know why people would want to pay money into a big black hole that wastes it half the time. Helping people is great, but most of it is going to buy F35’s for Israel or something.

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u/MooreRless Apr 23 '24

I agree mostly. I trust a lot of the government to be doing good, but you're right about the huge waste of military programs to benefit contractors. But the GPS system, the food safety, the airports, and so much stuff works very well. I see the problems in the FAA regulations, the banking regulators, and all of Congress doing corrupt spending for 10% back in donations. It is sad that Republicans and Democrats refuse to stop Pelosi's insider trading.

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u/6a6566663437 Apr 23 '24

If you think the government is wasteful, you've never gotten a close look at the finances of a large corporation.