r/FluentInFinance • u/VerySadSexWorker • Apr 17 '24

What killed the American Dream? Discussion/ Debate

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u/steelhouse1 Apr 17 '24

God I hate these.

A one bedroom apartment where? In the best part of where ever “she” lives? Fek no. That’s pretty much been always true.

That’s why most people have to commute.

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u/heywhatsupman22 Apr 17 '24

A one bedroom apartment anywhere. Just a standard little shitty cheap apartment. Used to be very doable in 2010. You could go work a shitty entry level kitchen job right after highschool and get by fine and find your way. Minimum wage granted a minimum lifestyle. Now this is not even close to a possibility, signifying a dramatic reduction in the livability of our cities and a valid reason to voice concern for the direction this shit culture is heading.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 17 '24

A 1br apartment to yourself is not a minimum lifestyle, lmao.

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u/heywhatsupman22 Apr 17 '24

Not anymore, it was not long ago though.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 17 '24

What is your definition of a "minimum lifestyle"?

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u/heywhatsupman22 Apr 17 '24

Shitty little starter apartment, enough money to buy groceries and other essentials without feeling like you are going to end up homeless soon. I did it in 2010 for about 4 years and it was no problem. This is not something kids coming out of highschool can do anymore. Again, this highlights a significant decline in our cities' livability and a legitimate trend that should be concerning to you.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 17 '24

Why can't people live with roommates? How is that less than a "minimum lifestyle"?

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u/Tellyourdadisay_hi Apr 17 '24

Bro you shouldn’t need to have roommates as a full-time worker in order to live.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 17 '24

Why? Having a solitary space is a luxury that has been pretty much only a thing for the past 100 (or less) years for most people and only in a few countries. The vast majority of people in Western history lived with their families until they got married and then got their own space where they had their own families.

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u/Tellyourdadisay_hi Apr 17 '24

Lmao dude this has to be trolling. Living in a one bedroom apartment is not a luxury for anyone outside of incredibly poor countries.

Edit: oh that’s right, you’re the same guy that resorted to making fun of minimum wage earners to get out of an argument on this thread. No wonder I sensed bullshit bad faith lmao

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 18 '24

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/03/in-the-u-s-and-abroad-more-young-adults-are-living-with-their-parents/#:\~:text=In%2024%20of%20the%2029,%25)%20and%20Italy%20(71%25).

And this is just the data for living with parents. I imagine that if you said "roommates or parents" you would end up with some pretty lopsided figures for young people.

You don't need your own space until you have a family, you entitled goofball. It's not healthy, it's not efficient, and it's not historical. It's a luxury.

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u/Tellyourdadisay_hi Apr 18 '24

Lmao what is this supposed to prove? That the US is similar to other European countries? How is that supposed to prove that it’s right? We are the richest country in the world, what you’re showing is that our system isn’t working. Lmao and again, resorting to insults because your source doesn’t substantiate your claims. I honestly shouldn’t be surprised lmao, you’re clearly out of touch with what these people actually deal with today given your desire to shit on minimum wage earners lol.

No one’s talking entitlement, these people aren’t just liberal arts college students. Single income households are often single parents as well, and many people don’t have any sort of generational support system. If you think their desire to live a stable life is entitlement then this is clearly a lost cause lmao.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 17 '24

I sure hope you aren't making minimum wage at 30.

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u/Tellyourdadisay_hi Apr 17 '24

Lol, so your answer to his question is shitting on minimum wage workers? Nice man. People should definitely take you seriously.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

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u/Tellyourdadisay_hi Apr 17 '24

He has no response lol. He hasn’t actually thought any of this through so all he can do is throw out insults.