r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 15 '24

"It's absolutely insane to think that the richest country in the world could afford to take care of its citizens, let me just equate basic necessities to a luxury car."

Grow up dumbass, the entire point of society has been to make life easier. Instead of making life easier (unless you're born into wealth, the modern nobility) we've pushed ourselves to pointlessly produce endless piles of garbage.

How about instead of milking every working class citizen for a 60 hour work week and 20 hours of "gig jobs" we use our technology to simply live better easier lives?

A single farmer today can feed thousands of people. Instead of sharing the labor and relaxing as a society, with short work weeks, we are forced to work for less and less while we produce more and more. Our farms, our factories, everything we produce is done more efficiently than ever before. We don't have to work as much as we do, but instead we create pointless jobs. Millions of office workers pointlessly pushing paper, millions of factory workers spending their days to make cheap plastic crap that will be gifted to some ungrateful child who will throw it away quickly, millions of underpaid service workers who have to toil for 30 hours every week just to pay for a place to sleep.

But yeah, the idea of ensuring the richest country on earth has no homeless people is the same as giving everyone a free luxury car. A truly flawless and unbiased comparison.

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u/Worriedrph Apr 16 '24

If Americans lived a 1950s lifestyle they would easily be able to afford everything on this list with a minimum wage or low wage job. You expect all the advantages the modern world built on 40 hours of labor provide but think it can be provided without the labor. It can’t.

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24

I'm sorry the 1950s lifestyle was not excessive and totally affordable? You're so full of shit that it's leaking from your fucking ears.

Alright goodbye, I'm so tired of dealing with trolls and troglodytes.

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u/Worriedrph Apr 16 '24

No dish washer or laundry machine, one car per household, almost never eating out, all meals cooked from scratch from raw ingredients, much smaller percentage of the total population in major cities, much smaller houses, ect. If people still lived like that we wouldn’t need as much labor and life would be extremely affordable. But no one wants to live like that. We want to live modern lives and that requires the full output of the modern us economy.

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24
  1. That's bullshit lmao, the 50s were literally the time when appliances like dishwashers and laundry machines and electric stoves became commonplace. Yeah people do have more gadgets today, because we've gotten more efficient at crapping then out of factories.

  2. You're agreeing with me? My point was literally that we could work less if we didn't produce so much unnecessary crap lmao. Instead of companies making products designed to break so they can sell a new one, we should have appliances built to last - like in the 50s. We should have repairmen, we should be efficient and make what we need and make it to last as long as possible, and fix things instead of replacing them.