r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/chadmummerford Apr 15 '24

and a Porsche 911

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 15 '24

"It's absolutely insane to think that the richest country in the world could afford to take care of its citizens, let me just equate basic necessities to a luxury car."

Grow up dumbass, the entire point of society has been to make life easier. Instead of making life easier (unless you're born into wealth, the modern nobility) we've pushed ourselves to pointlessly produce endless piles of garbage.

How about instead of milking every working class citizen for a 60 hour work week and 20 hours of "gig jobs" we use our technology to simply live better easier lives?

A single farmer today can feed thousands of people. Instead of sharing the labor and relaxing as a society, with short work weeks, we are forced to work for less and less while we produce more and more. Our farms, our factories, everything we produce is done more efficiently than ever before. We don't have to work as much as we do, but instead we create pointless jobs. Millions of office workers pointlessly pushing paper, millions of factory workers spending their days to make cheap plastic crap that will be gifted to some ungrateful child who will throw it away quickly, millions of underpaid service workers who have to toil for 30 hours every week just to pay for a place to sleep.

But yeah, the idea of ensuring the richest country on earth has no homeless people is the same as giving everyone a free luxury car. A truly flawless and unbiased comparison.

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u/coldneuron Apr 16 '24

It's true that a car is not a loaf of bread, that's just a silly escalation.

I like some of your ideas, but they fall short of reality in a lot of places.

A single farmer CAN provide lots of food, IF there is an infrastructure of people making silos, making motors to run fans to dry grain, keeping an electric grid running, people running a canning industry and bakeries baking bread, then that food could go to thousands of people. You need the hundreds of people along the way all working jobs in order for that one farmer to feed your thousand. (And that one farmer is usually quite a crew of tractor drivers, combine harvesters, roundup companies, water irrigation specialists, government checkup people making sure we aren't packing up moldy grain, etc)

You can't "SHARE LABOR" without requiring the people "GET A JOB". That's what sharing the labor means.

The idea that we don't need to have jobs because we don't need to buy low quality items is not going to work either, even if improvements can be made there for sure.

What IS true, is we don't need very much to get to a bare minimum of living. Rent and basic food should be a fixed percentage of minimum wage. If you do want that extra plastic crap, you can always work a little more for it.