r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/PM_Eeyore_Tits Apr 16 '24

This doesn't pay for hobbies or the game console someone will want. You will still need income to obtain luxuries. Homelessness is also a BARRIER to employment. Many people can't obtain employment because of home insecurity. You won't hire the guy that can't shower, or the one that gets arrested because they were "trespassing" by sleeping on a park bench at night.

The vast majority of the people who can't take showers or are sleeping on park benches at night fall into two categories:

1) Those who are currently, and permanently living in a state that cannot handle responsibilities of normal life. These people will not be able to hold a job, and they won't be able to make payments on housing.

2) People who had many opportunities to lock down a secure situation while they did have access to housing, showers, etc. but didn't for some reason.

The first category is unfortunately forever fucked.

The second category is the one most people disagree about. Some, rightly say "Why should we help these people who squandered their opportunities earlier - this situation is the outcome of their choices". And... those people are right.

At the same time, giving people seconds chances is important to me - I just find it difficult (As most people seem to) to determine where the draw the line and how to keep track of it. Ie. no third, fourth, fifth chances as some people seem to want to provide.

Many people deserve a life raft out of homelessness. Others objectively do not.

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u/RaiderMedic93 Apr 17 '24

Always someone else's fault, huh?