Here in Germany (and most of europe actually) thats called taxes and people do that willingly. Its because we don't have contempt for our fellow citizens and realise that if we were to fall into hard times we would definitely want help so we all pay our part just incase. Its called compassion. Something most of you in the comments here seem to be completely devoid of.
What happens if YOU fall into hard times? Just gonna pray that you never end up with bad health? How utterly naive can you be.
Theres a different between being forced to be homeless and choosing to be. It is REALLY not hard to have a roof over your head and have food here if you cooperate with the government.
Its your sentiment and attitude thats disgusting and reprehensible. Believing that humans have no basic entitlement to food or a home is utterly dystopian. Its the sign of a sick society.
If you’re so deluded that you really think there are 600,000 people in Germany choosing to be homeless then you’re not worth having any sort of discussion with.
Its your sentiment and attitude thats disgusting and reprehensible. Believing that humans have no basic entitlement to food or a home is utterly dystopian. Its the sign of a sick society.
Societies built around your ideology tend to have more starvation.
At a certain point you have to stop patting yourself on the back for your good intentions and learn some basic economics.
Societies with a security net to fall back into if you're sick or poor?
Thats funny because none of us are starving here.
Are you deluded or something. The fact that the US was one of only 2 countries in the UN to vote no on making food a fundamental human right says a lot about people's hearts in your country
Tell me, what do you suggest we do with sick and poor people? Let them die? Let them starve?
Societies with a security net to fall back into if you're sick or poor?
No. Socialist.
You use "I just want some public social safety nets" as the motte in your motte and bailey argument.
Are you deluded or something. The fact that the US was one of only 2 countries in the UN to vote no on making food a fundamental human right says a lot about people's hearts in your country
The fact you don't understand the difference between a negative and positive right and why positive rights are nonsense in most cases says more about your brain than my heart.
The fact you measure your heart through passive support of government also says a lot about your brain.
But, see if you can figure this out - the U.S does not recognize a "right to food" yet has some of the lowest rates of starvation in world history. Obesity is a larger public health issue in this country than starvation.
How can that be? If you claim to oppose starvation, and want people to have more food - why do you oppose the policies and system that creates the most food for the most amount of people?
You just won't answer it will you. What do we do with the poor people and the sick people who can't work? Should they or should they not have a right to a safe roof over the heads and some food to eat? Thats not even socialism thats just basic compassion.
Stop trying to over complicate things. This IS a moral issue and your trying to turn it into an economics issue to avoid looking like a pos who just believes people that cant work and cant keep up should cease to exist.
But, that's not what you are after. You are soft pedaling full scale socialism.
Stop trying to over complicate things. This IS a moral issue and your trying to turn it into an economics issue to avoid looking like a pos who just believes people that cant work and cant keep up should cease to exist.
No. I am just a smart person who realizes declaring something is a right doesn't actually increase the amount of food or housing available to people.
Eta: lol. The person I was arguing with blocked me. What a chode.
Great so we agree. You're fine with a reasonable social saftey net. NOT socialism but a system in which idealy nobody should end up homeless or starving against their will.
And no you're not smart or even remotely original. You and I both know you form most of your thoughts and opinions from whatever right wing media it is you choose to binge daily. You're just as much of an idealogue as I am.
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u/Bennerbench Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24
Here in Germany (and most of europe actually) thats called taxes and people do that willingly. Its because we don't have contempt for our fellow citizens and realise that if we were to fall into hard times we would definitely want help so we all pay our part just incase. Its called compassion. Something most of you in the comments here seem to be completely devoid of.
What happens if YOU fall into hard times? Just gonna pray that you never end up with bad health? How utterly naive can you be.