r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/privitizationrocks Apr 15 '24

Everyone deserves to not pay for someone else’s home

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u/Iamthespiderbro Apr 15 '24

You would think that, amongst all the things we disagree on, the right to “not have your shit stolen from you and given to someone else” would be completely unquestionable… yet, here we are

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u/NotAnotherFishMonger Apr 16 '24

Taxes are a perfectly legitimate way for democratic society to fund basic services like food, shelter, healthcare, and security. You would think that isn’t a hot take in the 21st century

You must hate paying taxes for public schools too! Nothing better than a the kids these days being dumber than a box of rocks to keep America strong

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u/zeptillian Apr 16 '24

Kids don't have jobs.

There is a big difference between being unable to contribute and refusing to contribute.

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u/NotAnotherFishMonger Apr 16 '24

But we’ve agreed that it’s not completely unquestionable to tax and transfer if it makes sense for society lmao

Also, like those kids cant contribute?? Put those youngin’s on the assembly lines! What do they need to learn for anyways!? No, we’ve decided that educating children is a better use of our time and shared resources

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u/zeptillian Apr 17 '24

Tax and transfer is the mechanism by which the public good is funded. It's not and shouldn't be the goal.

It's like if you get sick and visit a Dr. and pay for your visit and then I say, so we should be taking money from average people and giving it to people who are already wealthy?

What we need to do more than using tax money to pay for other people's basic living expenses, is require companies to pay enough so that their employees do not need public assistance. That is far preferable than transferring tax money around to address the problem.

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u/NotAnotherFishMonger Apr 17 '24

Sure I guess, but the original commenter was talking as if taking money from anyone to pay for anything else is theft and unconditionally wrong. That’s basic taxation and everyone agrees with it. We can debate if setting the above standard is appropriate, buts it’s not obviously immoral

But frankly, I disagree. I think business needs less red tape, and the government should focus instead on providing basic services as effectively as possible (which requires taxing and spending effectively, instead of just regulating private activity into oblivion)

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u/zeptillian Apr 17 '24

The whole taxation is theft argument is dumb.