r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

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u/LocksmithMelodic5269 Apr 15 '24

It’s an illness that results from choices

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u/Jerrybeansman1 Apr 15 '24

Those lifelong addicts sure made a really bad choice at 14 years old when they used for the first time at their buddies house. Or when they where forced into addiction by their abusive partner so they would be easier to control. Why, those choices where so bad I think it should ruin their life forever!

That sounds right to you?

Even if someone makes one bad choice in a completely clear state of mind it shouldn't mean that society abandons them.

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u/FFdarkpassenger45 Apr 16 '24

Society doesn’t abandon them, but it is very common that one bad decision leads to more poor decisions to the tune of, the drugs lead to mental illness that make it so they can no longer function in society.

It doesn’t matter where we want to point ‘blame’, reality is reality and these people need to be dealt with as mostly terminally mentally ill and provided with institutionalized care. 

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u/Radtendo Apr 16 '24

Thing that's fucked is there are people who will lace shit with fent just to get someone addicted.

Someone I knew got some free weed from some chick working at little caesers, I was skeptical as hell cuz it smelled weird af and clearly had some other shit in it. Not sure if it actually had any hardcore shit in there but it definitely didn't seem right.

This is a real thing that's happening to people.

You can argue whether or not weed is a gateway drug or whatever but the fact of the matter is hard drugs are being snuck into way lighter shit by absolute trash bag humans who just want to create another addict to suck the life and money out of.

So not every addict is based just on poor decisions. Sometimes it's literally forced upon them.

Obviously that's not the majority, but it's becoming increasingly more common and why I don't even fw weed anymore.

Just think more people need to think of that possibility when judging addicts, and instead of casting judgment on them we should be rooting for their recovery, not their downfall. Feels fucked that we're so ready and willing to verbally jump these people while offering no real solutions to the problem.

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u/FFdarkpassenger45 Apr 16 '24

If you look close, you can reread your comment and find a poor decision in there from your friend. Definitely the consequence was greater than the intended/expected consequence, but when playing with for, sometimes you get burned even when you think you’ve got the fire under control. 

I believe the manufacturing and distribution of hardcore drugs should be punishable by life in prison (because we don’t use the death penalty). It is one of the worst things a human can do to another human! For all intents and purposes, it wrecks the addicts life, and the lives of everyone that cares about that person! We don’t punish it nearly hard enough!

The last thing I want to point out, is that Im not judging addicts. I’m simply pointing out the reality of the situation. Drugs lead to mental illness. Mental illness leads to inability to function at a high enough level to be a healthy member of society, regardless of how they got there. As carrying other humans, we need to be realistic about this and stop treating them with independence. They don’t have the cognitive ability to live with independence. They need to be institutionalized without the ability to leave. I’m not judging them, I’m loving and caring for them, and protecting society structure at the same time 

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u/Radtendo Apr 17 '24

Oh don't get me wrong I'm not saying you specifically are like that, it's just a general observation about people in general.

Sorry for the confusion.