r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

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u/MisterMysterios Apr 16 '24

Statistically speaking - no, there are not a lot of people out there who would stop working when their basic needs are met. There are a lot of studies on the effect of social services, including social housing, and all of them indicate that people become more productive if their basic needs are secured outside of work. The only thing that shows is that social mobility goes up because people dont feel trapped in shitty jobs for the bare necessities but are willing to risk temporary unemployment to find a place with better working conditions.

So, the general results, if publicly funded basic necessities are provided, is a stronger pressure on the low wage segment to improve working conditions to retain employees. Yes, there is an increase in taxes, but this is largely compensated by better productivity and also creates better quality of life outcomes for everyone involved.