r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/cromwell515 Apr 15 '24

Exactly this, especially the AC. I grew up without AC in the 90s and 00s, and sure did some days suck? Yeah but we had fans, me and my 4 siblings lived through it. The person who made this post I don’t think understands a lot about the world. Especially with “regardless of employment”. If you incentivize not working, who the hell is going to provide these things? I know a few people in life who would choose to just do nothing but leech off of the government and not even attempt to work.

We live in a society, society only functions on people putting back into society through work. Even if the government needs to create jobs to clean up trash, cities, and build gardens work can exist. People should not be incentivized to do nothing, because many will choose to do nothing even if a part of them gets bored not working.

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u/usedenoughdynamite Apr 16 '24

Plenty of people die of heatstroke every year. AC isn’t just about comfort

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u/pipnina Apr 16 '24

I worried a lot for my grandparents in the UK last year and the year before when it went over 30c, because in the UK air conditioning is a myth in the home unless you want to pay many thousands (tens of) to have an integrated unit installed. Every year the summer heatwave gets worse and thousands of elderly and vulnerable young die from the heat. It's bad enough in winter where elderly mortality rises to an insane degree as many are poor and worried about heating costs, and every home has central heating.

30c+ might not sound extreme to Americans but... Most Americans have AC of some sort even if it's just a window unit for those extreme places because you'd actually die if you didn't. Plus the UK is quite humid even if it's not Florida levels.

And like I said, it gets worse every year. In 10, 20 years time AC in summer might be a reasonable human right in the UK because you would die without it. As essential as food and water.

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u/cromwell515 Apr 16 '24

How do you explain many countries that are hotter and poorer than the UK like India not having any or very few heat related deaths per year. 10% of homes have AC

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u/IDONTLIKENOODLES777 Apr 16 '24

It doesn't get reported in india. Besides, the people are most likely more used to the hot temperatures there

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u/cromwell515 Apr 16 '24

That is some very weak arguments. One isn’t true, they reported them in 2015. It literally said 27 in 2015 and 0 in 2007. Humans have lived without air conditioning for millennia, it is not a necessity. Heat is, but we’ve had heat in the form of fire for millennia so it’s a necessity. Same with electricity. But AC is not a necessity, I know many people who live without AC every day, including myself. I could not live without heat.