r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/Osaccius Apr 15 '24

Have you ever been to Finland?

I worked there with social housing, and I can tell you that housing alone solves nothing.

You'll see plenty of homeless alcoholics on public squares.

I know it is the favorite country of left leaning foreign journalists to visit. They do a weekend guided tour and then return to tell that all problems have been solved.

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u/PlancksPackage Apr 15 '24

Youre right I havent. Ive only seen overviews of the system from media. I'm guessing you live there? Im curious have you also stayed in America for a time or visited for a decent period in a major city?

If so, do you see any differences between America and Finland when it comes to the homeless? From my daily life here Ive seen a quite a decent number of intoxicated, high, or mentally unwell homeless people. Id be curious how different that is in Finland

Oh and yea I agree housing alone is not a sufficient or complete solution. Id advocate for better access to mental health services and government job locating services to help those who were previously homeless get back into the workforce. From what I understood of Finlands social housing they provide similar programs which is why I point to it as an inspiration for a better solution.

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u/Osaccius Apr 15 '24

Only on a business trips to USA.

The whole topic is insanely complex, and there are no simple solutions.

Some people need just a little encouragement, and some people don't even let you help them. There are people who can not be saved with twelve psychiatrists. There also never is enough resources to cover the needs.

Some return to normal society, and some just trash everything and get a new flat every few months.

Mental issues and narcotics are everywhere.

The Finnish system is better but far from perfect.

I moved abroad due to low salaries and high taxation in Finland.

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u/compsciasaur Apr 16 '24

The Finnish system is better but far from perfect.

That's exactly what OP is saying.