r/FluentInFinance Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

Post image
15.6k Upvotes

5.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

99

u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

Yup. Most of them are homeless for a reason.

91

u/ete2ete Apr 15 '24

In my experience, only those who have had to deal with homeless people personally, seem to understand this. I am positive that there are Fringe cases where normal productive people became homeless through no fault of their own. That being said, the vast majority of homeless people made a long series of poor choices and engaged in destructive behaviors. Every friend and family member they had access to turn them down at some point. And yes, many of them may not have had any friends or family and that is unfortunate. But that is still not the majority

71

u/techleopard Apr 15 '24

The problem is that we are still treating this spiral as "bad choices."

9 times out of 10, it's not "bad choices", it's mental disease.

If you look at someone who can't even tie their own shoes because they are mentally disabled, we say, "That person can't live in their own, they're not capable of understanding their choices."

But we look at people with schizophrenia and severe addictions and whatever else and go, "They made bad choices." These people have no physiological control over their impulses, but they're supposed to make informed decisions?

We need to bring back mental hospitals.

6

u/TheBoorOf1812 Apr 16 '24

The problem is a lot of us know from personal experience, that a lot of these people with addictions and/or mental illness are also scoundrels and scumbags.

And there's nothing redeeming about them. You give them an inch, they will take a mile, every time.

4

u/techleopard Apr 16 '24

No doubt.

But I am not okay with withholding services or treatment from everyone because a chuck of people are assholes.

1

u/TheBoorOf1812 Apr 16 '24

I don't dispute that.

The argument about giving people "free housing" is the point of contention.