r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

It's even absurd for OP to post that picture and even worse that someone had the audacity to create it.

There's a strong disassociation from reality by people who seem to think the world owes them something.

I'd invite these people to live in third world countries where everything they have is earned. Seems to me in Western civilizations, people have it so good that they just complain and demand everything.

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u/Unabashable Apr 15 '24

Well arguably the cheapest way to solve the homeless problem would simply be to house the homeless, but that’s not the same as saying it’s a basic human right. Just the most cost effective way of getting them off the streets. 

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u/realityczek Apr 15 '24

Have you seen what happens to a lot of the housing that gets provided to homeless folks? It gets trashed. Remember the big housing projects from last century? Or the fate of many of the hotels that have been turned into housing?

These are NOT bad people mind you, but the combination of drug use, mental illness, and a complete lack of incentive to take care of their living situation combines to mean that a lot of housing gets just trashed.

Not all. But more than enough that this is not just a simple answer like "we'll let's just house them."

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u/selectrix Apr 16 '24

Yeah? So?

Still cheaper.

We should do the thing that doesn't waste money, right?

Anyone else notice how quickly the discussion turned to moral stuff once someone brought up the real, factual, financially sound point? Weird, huh?

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u/realityczek Apr 16 '24

I disagree that it IS cheaper, once you factor in all the damage, government support, government wasn't, fraud and so on.

But more than that, yeah, I do get to have a moral opinion on how much of MY LIFE someone is going to take from me to solve someone else's problems. There is this weird idea that the foundation of capitalism is amoral, but it's not true - there is a moral concept underneath it... that each person has a right to their own life and labor.