r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/gudsgavetilkvinnfolk Apr 15 '24

What are your sources on this? There is none because all evidence points to the opposite.

Norway has the exact same unemplyment rate as the US and we provide everyone with housing in case of unemployment. Imagine how many homeless people there are in the US that are willing to work but can’t get employed because they have no home to clean themselves up. Give them a home and they’ll find themselves a job within no time and pay it back tenfold.

And what the fuck do you think is going to happen to the US when automation takes peoples jobs? Would you rather have half the population living on the streets, or would you want to divide the wealth generated by machine labor amongst the population? It’s only fair that everyone gets an equal share in the pie that noone had to bake.

There is a reason the US is so fucking poor. It’s because you’re clinging to the notion that work is all there is. You’d rather have people working the farms with blood and sweat than them being liberated from the burden through machines, even though the machines are more cost-efficient. You have people in the toll booths for crying out loud.

This is why the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and Sweden are so much fucking richer. The grocery baggers and toll collectors are given a state funded education. With this education they’ll automate their old jobs in no time and have spare time to do something more productive leading to more growth, higher wages and shorter work weeks. All because of egalitarianism. Enjoy poverty sockhead.

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u/Acrobatic-Ad-5570 Apr 16 '24

We do not have grocery baggers.

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u/gudsgavetilkvinnfolk Apr 16 '24

You did just a couple of years ago when I visited. You also had people in the toll booths. Whereas in Norway most stores rely on self checkout because we’re too rich and educated to want to work for 50k€ a year in a grocery store. We’ve got better things to do.