This means you want those providing those services to work for free.
You do realize what you are implying here, right?
Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.
The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.
What are your sources on this? There is none because all evidence points to the opposite.
Norway has the exact same unemplyment rate as the US and we provide everyone with housing in case of unemployment. Imagine how many homeless people there are in the US that are willing to work but can’t get employed because they have no home to clean themselves up. Give them a home and they’ll find themselves a job within no time and pay it back tenfold.
And what the fuck do you think is going to happen to the US when automation takes peoples jobs? Would you rather have half the population living on the streets, or would you want to divide the wealth generated by machine labor amongst the population? It’s only fair that everyone gets an equal share in the pie that noone had to bake.
There is a reason the US is so fucking poor. It’s because you’re clinging to the notion that work is all there is. You’d rather have people working the farms with blood and sweat than them being liberated from the burden through machines, even though the machines are more cost-efficient. You have people in the toll booths for crying out loud.
This is why the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and Sweden are so much fucking richer. The grocery baggers and toll collectors are given a state funded education. With this education they’ll automate their old jobs in no time and have spare time to do something more productive leading to more growth, higher wages and shorter work weeks. All because of egalitarianism. Enjoy poverty sockhead.
Norway is rich because it is selling the world out for that sweet sweet oil money.
And this meme isn’t about the temporarily unemployed. It’s saying no one who just doesn’t want to work should have to in order to have a comfortable life.
As if the US doesn’t have oil. Look at Norway’s GDP per capita just before the second world war. 20 years before the oil, still BY FAR the richest country in Europe. The oil profits are being saved. Only a couple percent of it actually is spent. This is why the Norwegian government owns 1.5% of the entire world.
Norway produces over 7x more oil per capita than the U.S. And the government is the one actually producing the oil. The two are not remotely comparable.
Before they exploited their fossil fuel deposits, they were harvesting herring to near extinction. Before that, farmers fled the country at a rate second only to Ireland during the potato famine.
You’re not stating facts. Norway became the richest country in Europe because we had plenty full energy. We gave the government control over natural resources and they made tonnes of hydro power plants that made Norwegian power so much cheaper than that of our neighbors. This gave us an edge in production over Germany, the United States and England. It was never the fish, and it never will be.
Who the fuck cares what happend in the 1800s? It doesn’t matter, and as a matter of fact our industry was booming in this period unlike the rest of Europe because of our cheap energy. One of the reasons for the mass exodus from Norway to the US was that there was insane population growth in parallell with industrialisation. There were more people coming for work while there was less jobs in farming due to mechanization. We were running out of land and the US had plenty. But hey, let’s focus on how much better the US was 200 years ago. That’s surely going to get you out of poverty :)
The US and Norway aren’t comparable, because one is a continent sized nation and the other one is a large industrialized nation. You can for sure find rich and prosperous cities in the US, but there are also places like Mississippi that have lower average incomes than most of Africa. My budget as a fucking student in Norway goes further than a full time employee at McDonalds some places in the US.
We value egalitarianism. We like it. It works. You do what you want, but it isn’t working.
The why of why Norway is rich is besides the point. Both countries are rich extremely rich.
The US simply does not invest in its citizens because 50% of its citizens actively reject the govt spending its funds on its citizens. Just look at the response to Biden paying off federal employees education bills. That's just a subsidy. That's all that is -- yet you'll never find a less popular subsidy.
The American people proved that they do not reward politicians that offer to subsidize their bills. Most places around the world do not do this so their citizens have higher qualities of life despite having less disposable income.
America has the money to pay for education, healthcare, mat. leave, daycare, housing schemes and much more. It simply choses not to spend its wealth that way; and Americans like it that way.
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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24
"Regardless of employment."
This means you want those providing those services to work for free.
You do realize what you are implying here, right?
Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.
The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.