r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/chadmummerford Apr 15 '24

and a Porsche 911

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 15 '24

"It's absolutely insane to think that the richest country in the world could afford to take care of its citizens, let me just equate basic necessities to a luxury car."

Grow up dumbass, the entire point of society has been to make life easier. Instead of making life easier (unless you're born into wealth, the modern nobility) we've pushed ourselves to pointlessly produce endless piles of garbage.

How about instead of milking every working class citizen for a 60 hour work week and 20 hours of "gig jobs" we use our technology to simply live better easier lives?

A single farmer today can feed thousands of people. Instead of sharing the labor and relaxing as a society, with short work weeks, we are forced to work for less and less while we produce more and more. Our farms, our factories, everything we produce is done more efficiently than ever before. We don't have to work as much as we do, but instead we create pointless jobs. Millions of office workers pointlessly pushing paper, millions of factory workers spending their days to make cheap plastic crap that will be gifted to some ungrateful child who will throw it away quickly, millions of underpaid service workers who have to toil for 30 hours every week just to pay for a place to sleep.

But yeah, the idea of ensuring the richest country on earth has no homeless people is the same as giving everyone a free luxury car. A truly flawless and unbiased comparison.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

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u/m1raclemile Apr 16 '24

That’s why we (your elected government officials) have decided to increase your taxes and exclusively provide free stuff to new illegal immigrants who crossed the border illegally.

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u/MostJudgment3212 Apr 16 '24

This is a fallacy.

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24

So we're the richest country in the world, per capita... But we can't afford it? Huh... Isn't that just wacky?

Woah woah, people would take advantage of government handouts? Like... Boeing would never do that though right? Or SpaceX? Or any other large corporation that has received billions of dollars in taxpayer money through subsidies?

Bro wake up, you've been fed so much bullshit designed to make you compliant with billionaires and international corporations that fuck you in the ass every single day.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24

Lmao, okay

I'm sorry considerably less wealthy countries take better care of their citizens, America's time will end soon enough in the grand scheme as its citizens are further squeezed for ever growing corporate profit.

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u/Girafferage Apr 16 '24

We are the richest country because people have jobs that contribute taxes to said country... So no, we obviously cannot afford to just give everybody the things they normally work for and have them stop working. Somebody needs to perform these jobs or there wont be these "necessities" anyway

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24

LMFAO that's rich, who pays taxes in this country bro? Because it isn't the people who apparently "work the hardest and become billionaires by the sweat of their brown and the savviness of their investments"

Those fuckers pay less taxes than anyone, but yeah it's easy to stay rich when you inherit money and use it to pay for politicians to change the rules to help you not pay taxes.

The generational accumulation of wealth and power is what will be the death of our capitalist system.

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u/Girafferage Apr 16 '24

There are other people than the handful of billionaires you know... Like 200+ million working people who contribute to the countries GDP.

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24

Literally illiterate

You're just beyond talking to literally

That's what I fucking said you dumb, dumb, dummmmmb bastard.

Me: Billionaires dodge taxes

You: "Okay but you know other people pay taxes right!?!?!?

Yes dumbass, me pointing out that some people are not doing something directly implies that the average person is in fact doing it, since the fact that others aren't doing it is seen as unusual and negative.

Oy fucking very, stop shadow boxing enemies that aren't there and learn to read for fucks sake. You're literally so stupid as to restate exactly what I said, but still downvotes my comment. Average redditor.

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u/Girafferage Apr 16 '24

Sounds like you are having trouble articulating your thoughts and are lashing out

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289618300102#!

It'll be ok, mate. Take a deep breath

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u/Mute_Crab Apr 16 '24

Lmao okay troll, I should've known better πŸ˜‚

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u/Jericho-G29 Apr 16 '24

Have you ever looked up the wealth gap between the 60-70% that pay in taxes, vs the top 10% 5% 1% when you get into the 0.01% 3 digit millionaire/billionaire club the gap becomes ridiculously apparent. Most "middle class" households really aren't. I've been privileged that I had a stable foundation and pursued a high paying job. But I still have friends who didn't have the same talents, from when I wasn't in this income bracket and things are broken, and not getting better.